The EU looks like the Soviet Union in 1991 – on the verge of collapse

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  1. Striped Horse

    Striped Horse Well-Known Member

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    It do. That is to say the caption seems unusually accurate in this story.

    But I think this is because Europeans are waking up to their captivity under almost 4 decades of neoliberalism and finally doing something about it.

    Never-the-less, the hideous regime-changer Soros struts his neoliberal stuff --- he wants solutions! We can't have the neoliberal EU becoming something other than neoliberal, he argues as it would destroy the internationalism project.

    Where else could guff like this be published other than the Guardian...

    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...SDK1q3TwfDJFAue9PmfbTRrEfRK6yO8CtOitmRYZAe16w
     
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    Relative to the foregoing is the survival of France's Macron, probably the most hated man in France with his popularity sinking steadily from the day he took office to the all time low of 9% today (according to some reports).

    May he leave and retire in the Sun - for a day or two - before being arrested and face a prison term like his predecessorNicolas Sarkosy (a real possibility given his bodyguards illegal activities that are now under investigation).

    https://www.ft.com/content/4b2dc414...YlGC-nsHfcWIBBUQM7QJzeleJZfpGsyuq30eEU-OBtE8k
     
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    Lets see if belgium survives may first
    It may give the eu the kick it needs to tumble down ;-)
     
  4. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He totally ignores DiEM25.
     
  5. Striped Horse

    Striped Horse Well-Known Member

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    That's Soros for you Alexa. Not a man to invest in.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed. It raised a question on his apparent support for the left and democracy.
     
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    From the article:

    The next inflection point will be the elections for the European parliament, in May 2019. Unfortunately, anti-EU forces will enjoy a competitive advantage. There are several reasons for this, including the outdated party system in most European countries, the practical impossibility of treaty change and the lack of legal tools for disciplining member states that violate the principles on which the EU was founded. The EU can impose its laws on applicant countries but it lacks sufficient capacity to enforce member states’ compliance

    I read him saying he wants to ban parties he disagrees with/don't go along with EU rules, he desires the ability of the EU to enforce globalist laws on people and a way to jam those globalist laws and policies down the throat of the populace.

    Does this guy give one flying Phuque at a rolling donut about individual liberty or freedom at all?

    (I hope you are impressed with my use of the French language there.)
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I read that article yesterday and found it strange. Do you think his dotage has caught up with him?
     
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    It seems to depart from his usual strategy of pulling strings from behind the scenes. That could be an ominous development, indicating he now feels he holds so much power it is no longer necessary.
     
  10. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes we are impressed. As for George Soros, he never gave a damn. He's an ideologue, and believes the end justifies the means. But he's not alone in that, there are others. His Open Society Foundation funds NGO's pushing for regime changes against democratically elected Presidents and have been banned in quite a few countries. But then again he chooses our own presidents as well. Well, someone has to fund them. :oldman:

    He is honest though as far as his goals go, and I do respect him for that even though I'm adamantly against them. In an early video he inferred that pointing out the Jews to the Nazis gave him a sense of importance. The feelings must have been quite strong because he said that if he didn't suppress them, people would think he's crazy. I guess he felt he had a messianic purpose for his life.

    It's over George, it's over!:oldman:
     
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    Merkel was dominant, now shes waning. Macron looked to be the new defacto head of the European project, now hes ****ed.

    I worry that this will open the door to even worse, literal pure evil opportunists like Tusk and Verhofstadt.
     
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    The USSR was a dictatorship, people died trying to leave the USSR, people are dying to try to into Europe.
     
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    Imagine pushing a vision then finding out near the end of your life it's a farce... nothing what you imagined at all and potentially worse than what you had in the first place

    At least Paul Keating (previous Australian PM) have no problem admitting he was wrong

    Even Keating now admits that neoliberalism should be dragged out the back and shot
    https://www.crikey.com.au/2017/05/09/razer-even-keating-now-decries-neoliberalism/
     
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    I know he has been banned by Orban, someone he put through University and who uses him to spread antisemitism. He invested a massive amount of money in Hungary. Unfortunately it now is putting up memorials to those who sent the Jews to their death.

    I don't agree with this Jeanette. Long time past I looked into this and found both the cut and the real videos which present a very different picture. I do not see him as being responsible for all the ills in the world as some people present him. Indeed I have tended to agree with what he has been doing when I have researched it before. This however just seemed crazy. For a start he believes that people in general are unaware of the situation in Europe when this is far from the truth. In that way I found his article somewhat weird. In this situation I would have expected that the thing which would have concerned him by far the most would be the rise of the far right which he certainly mentions but then him totally leaving out the fact that there are people, Diem 25 working within the EU to keep them together, to avoid Europe disintegrating into ethnic Nationalist states and returning to fascism by bringing increased democracy to the EU who also are addressing Climate Change and he does not mention them when I would have expected him to be funding them enormously seemed completely bizarre. I still think it may be that his Dotage has caught up with him. I am sure you can remember when people used to say, explaining someone's strange thinking, 'He is in his dotage'.
     
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    The EU has to reform or die. :icon_yoda:
     
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    I've said it many times that the EU is on the brink of implosion; the only thing that surprises me is that it's taking a bit longer than I thought it would, but implode it most certainly will.
     
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    I sometimes wonder if the Article 13 would be the thing that would make EU implode.

    Edit : reason grammar.
     
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    I rather suspect it is a case of very bad sour grapes. He and his compadres who engineered regime changes everywhere in order to usher in a New American Century of global hegemonic dominance have well and truly lost.

    Increasingly, I think the EU, in the longer term, is likely to unravel -- and the US will be unable to use it to control Eurasia. Halford McKinder's "Heartland" project is "Polly gone", and is "pining for the Fjords."
     
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    Don't worry, Nigel is on both their cases; he loathes them almost as much as I do.
     
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    You seem to be fixated on an entity that died 30 years ago. Which is you probably chose to use the operative word "was".

    But thanks anyway. I'll keep you in mind if I need other insights into past history.
     
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    I'll give Farrage this - he did the impossible. Just a shame that as I said on June 23 2016 MPs would never let it actually happen.
     
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    Alexa I'm a firm believer in human rights, and that no one has the right to impose their own ideals and standards on others with the belief they are superior. This is what George Soros and others have been trying to do with NGO's, seminars, etc. When something is against the will of the majority, then it's bound to create a backlash and it's happening now in the EU with the rise of nationalism.
     
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    Most of the nations join the EU so the people can get into Germany. It's where the money is. Great reason to join, so you can leave your country.:roll:

    I gave the EU a 2 year survival rate, and increased it recently to 2 1/2. That gives it about a year more. I sensed it was going to collapse quite a few years ago, maybe because a Greek Saint said it. He also said Britain would be the first to leave. I'm waiting! :oldman:
     
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    Just wait for a while. Maybe Theresa May would die trying to leave the EU. She may...
     
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    Secession in a dictatorship? Explain how that works.

    From the 1977 Constitution of the USSR:

    Article 72. Each Union Republic shall retain the right freely to secede from the USSR.
     

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