The Future EU Army

I define a state as a compulsory organized political entity that exercises authority over a particular territory and the EU fits that description.

It has a currency.
It has political institutions and laws.
It has a constitution.

Why do you think its not a state?

 

The US is a union and a state.too

 

Lets the a peek:

The party has been described as a German nationalist, right-wing populist, and Eurosceptic party. Since about 2015, the AfD has been increasingly open to working with far-right extremist groups such as Pegida. Parts of the AfD have racist, Islamophobic, anti-Semitic and xenophobic tendencies linked to far-right movements such as neo-Nazism and identitarianism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany

 

It is not a state/nation/country. The members are sovereign states/nations/countries.

And no, they do not have a currency, although most use Euro. They also do not have a constitution.

 

Im far right and not a neonazi.

 

Cool beans. I was taking about the party.

 

My thoughts on this are:


This was planned all along.

An army makes me think of war, not of defense.

There is no need for it.

There will be one.

There will be a war with Russia in the future.

This was planned all along.

No, the members are subject to Brussels by the constitution.

Just like the states of America.

 

The party also is not neo nazi.

 

It was a united union and in a way your correct since all states had their own Constitutions and were basically sovereign except fro 3 federal laws. But then came in the outsiders who have been tearing it down since 1913.
The sheriff at one time had more authority over his county than any LEO in the nation. Now most sheriffs are in cohoots with the feds so much for the people ruling and the leaders being the servants of the people. Now the peopel are slaves to their masters and the judges rule by the bench.
The people lost their nation when private bankers took over their economy and laws. Even Pres.Wilson acknowledged this fact after he realized it or maybe knew , who knows?

 

They do not have a constitution and nor do they have a military. The member states are sovereign. For example Finland has their own military, constitution, laws, elected officials (parliament, PM and president), and they collect their own taxes and spend the money as they wish. They also enforce their own laws, and protect their borders.

 

Finland is a small shithole country.

Its not a good example

 

Germany is a shithole too in my book. Finland is a typical member state, which is why it is a good example, and the people a heck of a lot nicer than Germans.

As far as land area, Finland and Germany are pretty much the same size. So much for the "small" claim.

 

This is the plan and it may have been in effect since the 1800s. There is more than one way to eliminate a race of people.

genocide

noun
geno·cide | \ˈje-nə-ˌsīd \
Legal Definition of genocide


: acts committed with intent to partially or wholly destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious groupalso : the crime of committing such an act


Why Poland doesn't allow immigrants.

 

Finland has almost no population.

And we are nicer.

 

Well keep up the hope maybe soon you can live like Finlander's do with your liberal agenda is fin-ished.

 

You are right, they do.
But are subject to Brussels.

The european constitution is a very real thing. A beaurocratic mess, but it exists.

my ID says clearly, in bold: EU citizenship. How can I be a citizen of a state that does not exist?

You might think of UK leaving the union, a fact that EU is not a state. Actually, the constitution allows for it, unlike the american constitution.


About the army, yes, thats the thing that would account for the EU not being a state. But its getting one, thats the topic of the thread, and states by definition, have a monopoly on the legitimate use of force within a certain geographical territory.

 

I am not liberal. Sorry.

 

No, they are not subject to Brussels, and no, EU does not have a constitution. There was a treaty to create one, but they did not follow through.

The OP comment about Macron and EU army turned out to be fake news.

 

The constitution exists as a series of treaties and amendments.

There were tonnes of debates if the EU constitution should supersede the national one. My answer is that it does and it should not.

The EU state was not born in '48 or in '57 but actually 10 years ago. Before that it was only a union. Yeah, my belief is that the EU state is only 10 years old-since the lisbon treaty(which actually replaced the constitution treaty you mentioned it was rejected but its the same thing). We can expect technical details to sort out in time...like the forming of the EU army.


I heard the story about Macron and the EU army elsewhere, Trump called it insulting, Putin called it great for a multipolar world. Real news to me.

 

We-ell, look at how his son's eyes glow in the picture just like Hitler's did?

The problem is not George or his money, after all he has his ideas as everyone does. It's his hubris, in that he believes he has the right to impose his ideas on the world and remake it in his own image.

Alexander Soros is the one on the right. The tall one is the psychopath he supports in Albania.

 

Again, there is no EU Constitution, and there is no EU state. It is an economic union of 28 independent countries.

Trump misunderstood what had been said and rushed to whine about feeling insulted.

 

If Macron didn't make a comment about forming an EU army, then why did Putin say after Trump slammed it:

"Europe’s desire to create its own army and stop relying on Washington for defense is not only understandable, but would be “positive” for the multipolar world." ​

Seems like you're the one passing around fake news.

 

Oh, wow. I didn't know George had the power of mind control!

 

The OP claims Macron said EU needs an army to defend against US, and that is fake news.

Currently EU is no longer sure if they can rely on US militarily due to the comments Trump has made.

 

Sure. He makes people eyes glow like Hitlers