The gun control thread

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Vegas giants, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Well-Known Member

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    Which is irrelevant to the discussion.

    None of which changes that firearm-related restrictions do not work as the proponents claim and promise that they will.

    One need not be a mythical creature to recognize what is false.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Is it? A lot of the ideologues didn't even than it! History does get in the way somewhat

    Objective research shows that gun control does have significant positive effects. You ignoring that evidence only confirms what I originally stated.

    One needs to be a mythical creature to be a pro-gunner capable of referring to the evidence.
     
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    What details of your plan have you presented?
     
  4. Xenamnes

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    It is.

    The studies presented by yourself do nothing more than state that it is a possibility. They do not confirm it as being fact.

    Evidence has indeed been presented and referred to in the past. However it has always been dismissed out of hand by yourself, on the basis of it not being in the form of a peer-reviewed, empiracle study.
     
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    Irrelevant to the fact that your claims of having presented "tons of evidence" in support of your position is nothing more than an outright lie. Each and every one of your posts has been read over, scoured in search of this supposed evidence, and there was nothing to be found in a single one of them. No evidence has ever been presented by yourself, and the work has been done by myself to prove such as being the case.
     
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    Nope. Many of your comrades think gun control is a recent phenomena.

    Again with ignorance of the empirical process! They find significantly statistical effects from gun control.

    Provide one example where I've dismissed evidence. Please provide author(s), title, journal and page numbers of the paper. Whoops, you're actually referring to tabloidism again! Sorry
     
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  7. Vegas giants

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    Yes. No evidence has been presented by yourself. I agree. Present some
     
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    Your claim to having presented evidence numerous times is false. Each and every one of your posts that still remain have been read, and there is nothing resembling proof in any one of them.
     
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    You have failed to present any evidence for your case.
     
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    One cannot present what simply does not exist. What is being asked for exactly? A quotation of each and every one of your currently existing posts, cataloging and showcasing the total lack of this supposed evidence, all culminated into a single post?
     
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    No I am asking for evidence of your position on how to reduce gun deaths. Present what you ask for of others. That is only fair.
     
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    I think some posters here are not willing to debate others on a level playing field.
     
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    You know the plan that we have to reduce gun deaths, you just dismiss it, and then say no plan has been presented because you disagree with it.

    Whether you agree or disagree, a plan has been presented.
    We could say the same about your position. We dont think it will save lives.
     
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    There is not THE plan. There is a person's plan. He can present it with the evidence he asks for.
     
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    It is much easier if you only have to criticize and never get criticized
     
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    He’s posted his beliefs. The plan is pretty much the same for those that value their 2A right.
     
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    In YOUR opinion
     
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    Wanna take a poll? The opinion is shared.
     
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    Really? Are you kidding with this nonsense?
     
  20. OrlandoChuck

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    It is what it is.
    2A supporters believe in personal responsibility, meaning those that break the law should be held accountable for their actions. ......... incarcerate violent felons fully.

    We also brelieve that registration leads to the government sending letters to demand surrender of firearms they deem you should not have......... for whatever reason.

    Without registration, the rest of the restrictions don’t work.

    That’s why registration efforts will be fought like nothing our legislature has ever seen.

    It is OUR plan.
     
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