The hate industry, Islam and Islamophobia

Giftedone · Mar 12, 2020

stan1990 said: ↑

They did save the world by saving Syria from turning into Afghanistan number two.
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Don't think this saved "The World" but, point taken.

stan1990 · Mar 18, 2020

Giftedone said: ↑

Don't think this saved "The World" but, point taken.
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Thanks

stan1990 · Mar 18, 2020

Poohbear said: ↑

Sure, what was the question? I post on dozens of these forums.
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Whatever question i asked you

stan1990 · Mar 18, 2020

chris155au said: ↑

Then why did you ask if people agree with the opinions written in this thread?
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It is a poll
people may agree or disagree with me

Poohbear · Mar 18, 2020

stan1990 said: ↑

Whatever question i asked you
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Then I guess you can take any answer I posted here.

chris155au · Mar 18, 2020

stan1990 said: ↑

It is a poll
people may agree or disagree with me
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Your poll question was asking if people agree with everyone's opinion in this thread, not just yours, as you made clear in this post: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...d-islamophobia.547352/page-13#post-1071467392

stan1990 · Mar 23, 2020

chris155au said: ↑

Your poll question was asking if people agree with everyone's opinion in this thread, not just yours, as you made clear in this post: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...d-islamophobia.547352/page-13#post-1071467392
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This won't change the fact, it's still a poll

stan1990 · Mar 23, 2020

Poohbear said: ↑

Then I guess you can take any answer I posted here.
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It is taken, thanks

chris155au · Mar 24, 2020

stan1990 said: ↑

This won't change the fact, it's still a poll
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Yes, it's a poll which has a response option ("YES") which you yourself don't think is possible, because a "yes" response would mean agreement with everything in the thread - which you have said is:

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Impossible
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Zorro · May 9, 2020

Robert E Allen said: ↑

I agree, islam just gets used by terrorists more than most other religions.
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Islam seems unusually susceptible to being misunderstood as a violent belief system. We kuffar engage in this error at our peril.

Arizona: Muslim Students Threaten to Kill Prof for Suggesting Islam Is Violent.

delade · May 12, 2020

stan1990 said: ↑

People influenced by the Islamophobia and xenophobia are refusing to admit that their views associating terrorism to the Muslims are a total failure. The war on terrorism is a reflection of the West fear at their civilization, which is in the final stages of self-destruction. People like Robert Spencer and Brigitte Gabriel refuse to acknowledge that the inventions and achievements of Muslim scholars have contributed to the renaissance of Europe at the same time life flourished in the Muslim cities of Damascus, Baghdad and Cordoba, which had the highest standards of living such as public baths, sewer systems and street lighting at night. People like Mark Styen are also addressing the demographic problem in Europe with all the bias possible. Muslims shouldn't be concerned about the reluctance of Danish, Swedish, Canadian or Spanish women birth rates to ensure that the labor market adequately supplied by the labor force to sustain the pension system is described by Mark as leniency in the granting of privileges.

The bias exercised by the Western media in their criticism of Islam is remarkable. For this reason, they receive prestigious salaries and collect revenue from advertising during top-rated T.V and radio shows. Conservative research institutes collect donations and fees, and they certainly will not offer a neutral view. Capitalism, whose principles can be summed up as anything got a price, transformed the Islamophobia into an industry, with a lucrative revenue as a result of book sales, articles and meetings on various media outlets. Islamic hate industry derives substantial revenue from patronizing the hate speech under the banner of Islam. There are many t.v, audio and written media outlets that play the hate tone against the followers of other religions and even followers of other Islamic sects. Both sides need one another, the hate industry on both sides feed on each other propaganda.

The negative propaganda against Muslims, which is reinforced by the behaviors of some individuals doesn't necessarily mean the dissemination of this propaganda to all Muslims. Historical events such as the Crusades or the Inquisition courts must not an excuse of blowing up train stations in London, attacking an airport in Belgium or the stabbing incidents in Europe, where the knife has become the favorite instrument of slaughter, in the name of religion and God. But both, Muslims and Christians practice dual standards. Islam had no role in the European religious wars and wasn't part of World War I and World war 2, which wiped out over 80 million victims mostly civilians. Western powers besieged Iraq for years under the pretext of possession of weapons of mass destruction, the lack of food and medicine killed more than one million Iraqi children, and then they invaded Iraq and destroyed its infrastructure, displaced its population and opened detention camps in which the most brutal interrogation techniques practiced. No Weapons of mass destruction discovered and the war destroyed the country; meanwhile, George W Bush explicitly declared the war to be a crusade. What was the outcome of the war in Iraq? The emergence of terrorist organizations more bloody than its predecessors, where the Organization of Jihad's Base in Mesopotamia, which surpassed the organization of al-Qaeda in criminality and bloody after which ISIS appeared. Now, the Western media promoting the extremist Khorasan group as an imminent danger to the security of the West and the safety of its citizens.

Islam or Christianity is just a religion that doesn't promote peace or violence but depends on personal behavior. If a person is by nature is peaceful, his character and behavior will reflect in his religious practices and vice versa. There are countless passages in the Christian and Jewish sacred books that incite violence against followers of other beliefs. It is absurd to simplify the fact that the violent acts of the Christians or Jewish people don't quote texts from the holy book to support their actions. They read and believe in these texts validity, do they? Those who blame religion and not people for violent and criminal acts should explain the high rates of crime, especially rape, theft and drugs, in countries and societies that describe themselves as secular and support separating religion from the state, the United States, Britain, France, Italy and others. How is that mass murder in Las Vegas 2017 interpreted when a gunman opened fire from his hotel window at a concert near the hotel? What is the justification for numerous shootings incidents in American schools and universities? And what about the 2011 mass murder in Norway, where a right-wing extremist named Andrés Bering opened fire on a camp for what he described as pro-Muslim left-wing youth? How will all these incidents be justified? How does the Western media's describe crimes committed by people with a white background as criminal offences justified while being labelled as terrorist crimes if committed by Arabs or Muslims?

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Muslims know who is a part of Islam by the fruits. Non muslims do not know what middle eastern atheists are as by their fruits. This is islamaphobia.

fmw · May 13, 2020

yasureoktoo said: ↑

Generally speaking.
Muslims contributed nothing to any society. With few minor exceptions.
The so called, "golden age', Was nothing more than living off the fruits of what they could steal.
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The Chinese of their day.

stan1990 · Jun 9, 2020

delade said: ↑

Muslims know who is a part of Islam by the fruits. Non muslims do not know what middle eastern atheists are as by their fruits. This is islamaphobia.
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Not sure if i understand what do you mean?

The Amazing Sam's Ego · Nov 13, 2020

The Wyrd of Gawd said: ↑

They are basically identical except Islam doesn't believe in Jesus as a god but as a prophet and it doesn't believe in baptism (not too much water for that in the desert).
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Jesus had the roles of prophet priest and King but He is first and foremost, a creator and a Savior.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Micah-5-2-Messianic.html

Is Micah 5:2 a Messianic prophecy?

Question: "Is Micah 5:2 a Messianic prophecy?"

Answer: Micah 5:2 predicts, “But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days.” The verse clearly speaks of a coming king in Israel, but does it predict the coming of the Messiah?

Micah 5:2 makes a couple of predictions. First, the birthplace of this future “ruler of Israel” would be Bethlehem Ephrathah. Since there were two locations known as Bethlehem at the time of Micah’s writing, the addition of Ephrathah is significant. It specifies the Bethlehem in Judah, the portion of Israel in which the capital, Jerusalem, was located. Bethlehem was considered “little,” or insignificant, among the cities of Judah, yet would serve as the birthplace of this future ruler.

Second, the coming ruler of Jewish background was one “whose coming forth is from old, from ancient days.” What else could this refer to other than the Messiah? Only the Messiah fits the description of a ruler in Israel whose origin was from times past. In fact, “from ancient days” is sometimes synonymous with “eternal” (as in Habakkuk 1:12). Only the Jewish Messiah could be a ruler in Israel from eternity past.

This interpretation is strengthened by the fact that the Jewish religious leaders in the first century identified Micah 5:2 as a Messianic prophecy. In Matthew 2, wise men from the East visited King Herod in Jerusalem and asked where the king of the Jews had been born. Herod assembled all the chief priests and scribes, and “he inquired of them where the Christ was to be born. They told him, ‘In Bethlehem of Judea,’” basing their answer on Micah 5:2.

Only Jesus Christ fits the Messianic claims of Micah 5:2. He was born in Bethlehem Ephrathah (Matthew 2; Luke 2:1-20). Jesus claimed to be the Messiah, the ruler of Israel (John 4:25-26). He also fits the description as being “from ancient times” or eternal (John 1:1; Colossians 1:16-17). No other ruler in Israel fits these requirements. Dozens of other direct prophecies in the Old Testament (some scholars cite hundreds) fit Jesus’ birth, ministry, and death.

Jesus told the Jews that the Law and the Prophets provided a clear witness that He was who He claimed to be. “These are the Scriptures that testify about me,” He said (John 5:39). Still today, those who investigate the prophecy of Micah 5:2 and other Messianic passages find compelling evidence that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God.
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Thingamabob · Nov 13, 2020

stan1990 said: ↑

People influenced by the Islamophobia and xenophobia are refusing to admit that their views associating terrorism to the Muslims are a total failure. The war on terrorism is a reflection of the West fear at their civilization, which is in the final stages of self-destruction. People like Robert Spencer and Brigitte Gabriel refuse to acknowledge that the inventions and achievements of Muslim scholars have contributed to the renaissance of Europe at the same time life flourished in the Muslim cities of Damascus, Baghdad and Cordoba, which had the highest standards of living such as public baths, sewer systems and street lighting at night. People like Mark Styen are also addressing the demographic problem in Europe with all the bias possible. Muslims shouldn't be concerned about the reluctance of Danish, Swedish, Canadian or Spanish women birth rates to ensure that the labor market adequately supplied by the labor force to sustain the pension system is described by Mark as leniency in the granting of privileges.

The bias exercised by the Western media in their criticism of Islam is remarkable. For this reason, they receive prestigious salaries and collect revenue from advertising during top-rated T.V and radio shows. Conservative research institutes collect donations and fees, and they certainly will not offer a neutral view. Capitalism, whose principles can be summed up as anything got a price, transformed the Islamophobia into an industry, with a lucrative revenue as a result of book sales, articles and meetings on various media outlets. Islamic hate industry derives substantial revenue from patronizing the hate speech under the banner of Islam. There are many t.v, audio and written media outlets that play the hate tone against the followers of other religions and even followers of other Islamic sects. Both sides need one another, the hate industry on both sides feed on each other propaganda.

The negative propaganda against Muslims, which is reinforced by the behaviors of some individuals doesn't necessarily mean the dissemination of this propaganda to all Muslims. Historical events such as the Crusades or the Inquisition courts must not an excuse of blowing up train stations in London, attacking an airport in Belgium or the stabbing incidents in Europe, where the knife has become the favorite instrument of slaughter, in the name of religion and God. But both, Muslims and Christians practice dual standards. Islam had no role in the European religious wars and wasn't part of World War I and World war 2, which wiped out over 80 million victims mostly civilians. Western powers besieged Iraq for years under the pretext of possession of weapons of mass destruction, the lack of food and medicine killed more than one million Iraqi children, and then they invaded Iraq and destroyed its infrastructure, displaced its population and opened detention camps in which the most brutal interrogation techniques practiced. No Weapons of mass destruction discovered and the war destroyed the country; meanwhile, George W Bush explicitly declared the war to be a crusade. What was the outcome of the war in Iraq? The emergence of terrorist organizations more bloody than its predecessors, where the Organization of Jihad's Base in Mesopotamia, which surpassed the organization of al-Qaeda in criminality and bloody after which ISIS appeared. Now, the Western media promoting the extremist Khorasan group as an imminent danger to the security of the West and the safety of its citizens.

Islam or Christianity is just a religion that doesn't promote peace or violence but depends on personal behavior. If a person is by nature is peaceful, his character and behavior will reflect in his religious practices and vice versa. There are countless passages in the Christian and Jewish sacred books that incite violence against followers of other beliefs. It is absurd to simplify the fact that the violent acts of the Christians or Jewish people don't quote texts from the holy book to support their actions. They read and believe in these texts validity, do they? Those who blame religion and not people for violent and criminal acts should explain the high rates of crime, especially rape, theft and drugs, in countries and societies that describe themselves as secular and support separating religion from the state, the United States, Britain, France, Italy and others. How is that mass murder in Las Vegas 2017 interpreted when a gunman opened fire from his hotel window at a concert near the hotel? What is the justification for numerous shootings incidents in American schools and universities? And what about the 2011 mass murder in Norway, where a right-wing extremist named Andrés Bering opened fire on a camp for what he described as pro-Muslim left-wing youth? How will all these incidents be justified? How does the Western media's describe crimes committed by people with a white background as criminal offences justified while being labelled as terrorist crimes if committed by Arabs or Muslims?

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My views regarding the Muslims is no "failure" - as you say. My "bias" - as you call it - is based upon solid personal experience. I have been to more than a dozen Muslim countries all the way from Morrocco to Indonesia and my own country is today over-run with "Muslims". CLEAR and STRAIGHT FORWARD > The Koran is filled with hate for non-Muslims. HOWEVER, just as with the Bible there are nasty Christians a good Christians. I know that. I accept that. So let me be clear: I do not fault Islam, though I certainly could due to the teachings in the Koran. I feel no animosity towards Malays for example. I do however fault Arabs and I can give you enough personal examples to fill this page and maybe another one .... enough to make you vomit. So, having prejudices (as I do) is no worse than avoiding walking down an alleyway in the dark and it doesn't make me an Islamaphobe.

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