The hate industry, Islam and Islamophobia

The problem with westerners is that they view Islam through western sensibilities. Islam is not compatible with western ideology. Islam is religion and government which is antithetical to the western secular state. Islam calls for conquering the world with Islam.

Most Islamic contributions to science came from conquered populations.

 

To understand Islam is to become Muslim or be forced to pay and be a second class citizen.

Like Christianity, there are plenty of non practicing Muslims.

 

Islam is a guideline regarding this world and the hereafter in one piece. That's different from mainstream Christianity.

 

They got that idea from the Talmud.

 

islam has a compulsory nature. Christianity has a voluntary nature.

 

They generally dont stand around but are running like hell to save their lives !

The fools are the gays who would risk being thrown off a high building just so they can orgasm in a male rectum .

It dont get more foolish than that. If this isnt proof of mental illness driving homosexuality....

 

While I would not have used the word 'only', it certainly a fact.

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And comparing either to chattel slavery is dishonest, and an affront to every life marred by such.

 

They are the less dangerous Muslims, the ones who haven't been radicalized by reading the Koran.

 

Nonsense, Jesus never forced anyone to belief, and rebuked His disciples when they wanted to. This is from an early church Father:

“It is only right…..that every person should be able to worship according to his own convictions. For one person’s religion neither harms nor hurts another.” Tertullian, 2nd C. church father. He also first coined the phrase “religious freedom” (libertas religionis) and saw it as a “human right” (humanum ius).

The Enlightenment figures came from a Calvinistic background, at least many of them. How come there wasn't an Enlightenment outside of a Judeo/Christian culture?

They commit terror attacks far out of proportion to their numbers. If only 10% of the world's 1B Muslims have terror sympathies, we have a big problem. Big majorities have extreme views, for example in supposedly moderate Egypt, 85% of Muslims think 'apostates' should be killed.

Islam is a retarding influence.

The Reformation brought Christianity back to it's roots, the roots of Islam are just as bloody as today.

For bloody, see atheistic Communist regimes whose body count was 100,000,000, and counting. You really want to compare that to the Reformation?

 

Did I say he was? Christianity is a relationship, not a religion. I don't think He ever used the word.

 

Why do Christians always pretend that the Father isn't important to their religion the moment their history gets dredged up?

 

Why are you pretending that's all there is to the Scriptures? The Bible includes laws that would have people murdered for freedom of religion, and these were laws that Jesus praised. The Father (who Christians like to pretend doesn't exists), according to Christianity, DID force beliefs on others. By the way, the Quran also says that Islam shouldn't be forced on anyone and that there should be no compulsion in religion.

Great. I'm glad there was at least this one loner. Unfortunately, Christians as a whole disagreed with him the moment they received any kind of power or significant numbers. And, no, it wasn't just because of the Catholics.

Calvin advocated the execution of blasphemers. Calvinist Geneva was a bloody theocracy. If you want to believe Calvin was any better than a terrorist Muslim cleric, it will take a whole lot of make believe. Any Enlightenment figures who came from a Calvinist background came to their Enlightenment beliefs DESPITE Calvinism, not BECAUSE of it. If they had followed Calvin's example, they'd have been rounding up people who disagreed with them and burning them on a pyre of green wood with a crown of sulphur.

The Enlightenment didn't come about until the West began rediscovering Greek and Latin classics that Christians had tried to wipe from the face of history.

We've been over this fantasy before. Judeo/Christian Scriptures are FULL of anti-Enlightenment sentiment, and Christians spent over a millennium and a half acting just like Islamic terrorists. It was only after they rediscovered PAGAN writings that the Enlightenment became a possibility.

They commit terrorist attacks out of proportion of their numbers NOW. In MODERN times they outpace Christians when it comes to terrorism. That wasn't the case for the majority of either religion's existence.

And your scriptures also call for the death of apostates.

The Reformation brought bloodshed. Calvin and Luther both advocated the death of blasphemers. And yet you call such terrorism and murder the "roots" of Christianity?

No, only people desperate to run away from the truth and try to change the subject because they can't address the truth of their ideology's history would want to make that fake comparison. Besides, huge swathes of the number you are pushing were due to famine because of bad central planning, not murder in the name of ideology.

Run away all you want, but the Reformation was bloody and was run by murderous terrorists who were no different in character from modern Islamic terrorist clerics. You've been faced with these historical facts before and you flee from the facts every time. Will this time be any different?

 

Certain segments of Christianity are purveyors of hate.

 

A big part of the problem is generalizing the nasty actions and beliefs of Islamist's onto all Muslims - not all Muslims are Islamist's.

The left media started to refuse to use the term "radical Islam" - which is correct as this term generalizes the actions and beliefs of the radical's onto all Muslims.

What the Media did not do - is adopt the correct term = "Radical Islamist" - and explain to people what the difference is.

The Islamist wants strict sharia theocracy - the Islamist hates secularism and has no respect for individual liberty - aka - the founding principles. The Islamist wants to force religious beliefs on others through physical violence (Law).

The West spent most of the last decade arming, supporting and supplying a radical Islamist proxy army - led by Al Qaeda and ISIS.

Segments of both Islam and Christianity do in fact promote violence.

 

Please cite these scriptures.

 

Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and the Father are one.

 

Large majorities in many Muslim nations want Sharia Law to be the law of the land: https://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30...ligion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

Recall the president of Turkey was offended at the idea of 'moderate Islam'. As he rightly said, there is no moderate Islam, only Islam.

You're blaming the victim, it is like blaming FDR for the Cold War because he was allies with Stalin once.

Nonsense, Jesus harmed nobody, nor did He tell anyone else to, unlike the bloody 'prophet'. You don't judge a philosophy by it's misuse.

 

Let me know when you find one of those.

On the OT theocracy of Israel, which doesn't exist. Nowhere are non Jews killed solely because they believe in a different religion, Muslim-style. Amazing the lengths you go to defending this retrograde, repressive and murderous cult of Islam. No Muslim nation has freedom of religion/thought as we do in the Judeo/Christian West.

You're talking about the early stages when Islam was trying to get power, afterwards there certainly was compulsion. EVERY Muslim nation today has compulsion in religion.

Calvin isn't my God, Jesus Christ is. Want to add up the body counts of Calvin vs. atheistic Communism? You don't judge a philosophy by it's misuse. Where did Jesus say to do that? It was a direct violation of Jesus' parable about the wheat and tares, where He said don't try to separate them now, that will be done at the final Judgement.

More nonsense. Hamilton wrote that it would be "as ridiculous to seek for models in the simple ages of Greece and Rome as it would be to go in quest of them among the Hottentots and Laplanders." In the Federalists it says that the classical idea of liberty decreed "to the same citizens the hemlock on one day and statues on the next.....Had every Athenian citizen been a Socrates, every Athenian assembly would still have been a mob." What we are seeing in today's sub-Christian Western society is a return to paganism, complete with the killing of infants and acceptance of homosexuality.

Bunk. Muslims killed tens of millions of Hindus in India, something the historian Will Durant called the bloodiest chapter in human history. Only the body count of atheistic Communism could rival it. Atheism wasn't the sole reason for Communism's crimes, but it was a necessary one.

Where did Jesus say to do that?

Famine was a tactic used by Stalin, especially in the Ukraine. Read the Black Book of Communism, it details the 100,000,000 body count you keep dodging. I'm I'm responsible for Calvin, you're responsible for Stalin. Some argue atheism is a religion, it is certainly a world view, everybody has one.

 

Not really, but I suspect you define hate as not validating the gay agenda.

 

Correct - but moderate Muslims exist - such as those in Eastern European Nations.

Preposterous nonsense o steroids - The simple fact is that through much of the last decade - Obama armed, supplied and supported a terrorist proxy army in Syria.

A better analogy is hitting a hornet's nest with a bat and then expecting not to get stung.

I did not claim otherwise - nor judge a philosophy by its misuse.

 

Yes really - some want to force their beliefs on others though physical violence - LAW - others want to execute Gays.

Notice I said "some segments".

 

I am Jewish. Rambam was one of main Jewish thinkers of Middle Ages and he supported Islamic Monotheism. According to Judaism, all monotheists who obey the Seven Laws of Noah have a share in the Next World. We do not oppose Islam or Christianity.

Atheism and Social Darwinism is responsible for most evils.

 

Have you ever read this passage? http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/religious_tolerance/dt13_13-15.html
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Don't you know that Jews spit on Christians in Israel?