The "horrors" of Socialism Explained

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Long term welfare recipients have been nonexistent since 1996
     
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    1) Cool, but I'm no Marxist. I'm a pragmatist, and regard Socialism as a mode of existence which transcends all politics.

    2) No they absolutely do not. First World Capitalism actively encourages non-participation (via freely available alternatives).

    3) I've suspected that all along.
     
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    You didn't have to. And still resorting to personal attacks when you're caught out, I see.
     
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    Sure they have. No one receives any kind of Govt benefits for more than a few months, right?
     
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    what do the fortunes of foreign nationals have to do with any of this? are we talking about America, or some other nation?
     
  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Exactlly, A GROUP of VERY SPECIFIC people, but not interchangeable with people. All families are made of people but not all people are in families
     
  7. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wait!
    You said that when workers make money for non-workers, that's master-slave Capitalism. That means investors.

    You don't know what you believe, do you?
     
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    Of course. Hannity already told you what I believe, right?
     
  9. crank

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    Families are small corporations, working together towards a shared goal (whatever that is in any given family). They consist of PEOPLE who have volunteered to join forces and work together. Even your children, once emancipated, will necessarily work in the 'family corporation' if they elect to stay in it.
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Welfare is limited to 5 years. Not all government benefits are welfare.
     
  11. BestViewedWithCable

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    a golf ball and Jupiter have quite a bit in common too......
     
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    wtf?
     
  13. crank

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    No idea what/who "Hannity" is.
     
  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Families are not generally corporations, they more resemble partnerships and most are actually sole proprietorships
     
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    Both believe in the freedom to voluntarily live however we see fit, and both believe in the necessity of pulling one's weight.
     
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    I didn't say there were corporations in the business sense. They are a group of people agreeing to work together towards a common goal. That is more a cooperative than a corporation, but both are comprised of people agreeing to work for a specific outcome.

    But I would beg to differ on the sole proprietorship thing. In many parts of the world, multiple generations live together and share labor and resources according to the general needs of the household and of the property. All are 'equal partners', if you will.
     
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    So does capitalism.
     
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    Yes, agreed.

    These people (Cafe Socialists) are seeking something which doesn't exist outside of childhood fantasy.
     
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    You can be an example of white privilege. You are also an example of "white guilt". You feel it puts you on some higher moral plain. Tell me, did you own slaves? What have you done that makes you so guilty? You can give all your money to Al Sharpton for all I care.
     
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    Bots are getting more and more sophisticated these days. They almost pass the Turing test.
     
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    The poor the right wing likes to complain about when discussing cutting social services instead of their more socialist on a national basis, non-enumerated warfare-State spending.
     
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    He's one of the people whose job is to fabricate most of the fake talking points that you have repeated here. He has a huge echo-chamber which goes from talk radio to Fox News to bloggers, to this forum and to fake-news websites. He pre-packages the talking points in a way that are easily deliverable by anybody so they don't have to think. But, at the same time, it requires those who repeat them to check logic and human reason at the door before entering.
     
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    Of course not! What does "guilt" have to do with any of this?
     
  24. crank

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    So he's a far left Commie? Wow, I'm surprised he has any sort of appeal to Fox fans. Is it the novelty, perhaps? And you mention fake news and the hive mind, so I'm assuming he works for CNN?
     
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    Why would Americans complain about poor foreign nationals? And what on earth do American social services have to do with foreign nationals? You're making no sense.
     

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