The Ivory Tower Man: Why Academia Hates Guns

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  1. 6Gunner

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    After seeing a couple of posts by a couple of the gun control proponents here, I subsequently had a friend forward me the following article. I have to admit I find it highly relevant. We can talk gun control and throw stats at each other all we want, but it is this that cuts to the heart of what motivates gun control advocates in my honest opinion.

    The Ivory Tower Man: Why Academia Hates Guns

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/arti...an_why_academia_hates_guns.html#ixzz4hBMonkGt
     
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    I'm pro-gun and conservative and work for industry, but that article was about the biggest load of bullshit I've read in a while. It was as bad as the idiotic Eddie the Eagle=-Isis article. It's just a bunch of whooey based on assumptions. I think a liberal wrote it to make conservatives look stupid.
     
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    I dunno, I thought it was written to get Liberals to
    re-thinking the so called "Ivory Tower mentality"
    Lots of people live in secured Towers, Trump Towers for instance, that fit those parameters, and have those type of jobs, they never have lived on a farm or had to do manual labor or defend themselves thinking someone else will do those things.

    I thought the article was well written.
     
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    It seems like “Ivory Tower” is the new “Straw”.
     
  6. 6Gunner

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    Really? How about, instead of just saying "it's just a bunch of whooey", you explain what exactly you take exception to in the article?
     
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    Ok, perhaps, however it was a perfect fit and description of many New Yorkers, City Dwellers, and their narrow views on life.
    It would not aptly fit People living on farms in Upstate N.Y. for instance
     
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    I think there is much merit to the argument raised in that article. Having spent 8 years in the Ivy League, I agree that many in the Ivory tower are those who outsource all risk and responsibility to the government. As Jeffery Snyder noted in his seminal "A Nation of Cowards" 22 years ago, armed men who make their own safety a PERSONAL responsibility, accentuate feelings of timidity and inadequacy in the cowards who wish the government to bear the duty and the risk of defending the lives of the cowards. armed citizens remind the coward of his failings and he wants to banish-from his environment, those reminders
     
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    Yes, the Bible gives examples when Cowards were reminded of bad deeds and how those Cowards knashed their teeth and killed the one reminding them.
    Stephan the Martyr was stoned to death because of such a reason.
     
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    So people who don't own guns are cowards who don't take responsibility for their own safety? You know you can't prove that people who own guns are safer because of it and there are other ways to take responsibility for your own safety. The arrogant, close-minded mentality of some people on this board still catches me by surprise sometimes.
     
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    no but many are. we know that most gun banners are cowards and control freaks. If I was the lord master of the USA, all gun banners would be required to post signs on their property saying they were disarmed. I'd rather have criminals attack those people than gun owners. If you are afraid to own a gun then that is your choice. But I tire of those who are cowards wanting to ban others from owning guns.
     
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    I did. It was an article based on assumptions about how other people think. There was nothing factual or evidence based at all in it, just wild assumptions by the author. There are no specific examples of what he's talking about, just a bunch of he-man gibberish about what he thinks the Ivory Tower thinks and how inferior they are to people like him. In other words, a bunch of hooey based on his imagination. I thought it was so bad that it was a parody of how conservatives think about liberals.
     
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    It really is just one big opinion piece devoid of any facts or basis in reality
     
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    Yes. Pretty much. Sure, there are exceptions, and some people eschew firearms ownership for themselves for perfectly valid questions and I will not condemn them for that choice. Gun control advocates, however....

    ... And you can't prove that gun control makes anyone safer. And you can't prove that armed people aren't safer than those who aren't armed. We know that people who resist assault with firearms are less likely to suffer harm than those who fight back with any other method; including running away.

    Don't feel bad. If you work on it, you can leave the faults you demonstrate behind.
     
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    Exactly! Well said!
     
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    There are people fine with other people protecting and dying for them... yes that is both cowardess and represents a rejection of one of the basic reasons for banding together; preparing for and accepting the responsibility for common welfare and defense. Worse is the message that for them to feel safe everyone else is expendable, to denied the basic human right of self defense and subject to the roll of the dice that they won't become one of the herd statistics.
     
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    We also know having a gun in your house means it will most likely be used on someone you know
     
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    That is an excellent point about personal responsibility for self defense. Then there are idiots who somehow think that ONLY martial arts and physicality is enough to beat a threat. I'm sure he'd have a 18 year old MS 13 banger weighing all of 120 lbs laughing his ass off.
     
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    Some of us extended this personal responsibility to mean the defense of this nation....and some did not.
     

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