The Left Have Shot Themselves In The Foot

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

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    LOL. It's fiction that crime is rising everywhere you look? Apparently the blue state of Virginia realizes that Democratic policies promote more crime.
     
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    First off you are correct, I've never advocated disarming police officers. Let's make that clear from the get go here.

    Secondly my position on the gun not being of any value since she's dead is true; if she is killed (whether by a gun or knife or other means) the gun she was carrying would be useless. But you try to weave it into disarming the police. Are you saying that police officers lives are not valuable? Keep in mind they are natural targets since they provide law enforcement. That may be your viewpoint, but that is not mine.

    Third, Police inject themselves into dangerous situations more then a woman jogger and as such need to be armed for obvious reasons.
     
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    It certainly is fiction when you claim that Democratic policies are somehow promoting crime.
     
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    Heaven forbid!!! That dirty little secret MUST remain unspoken!!! Gun Facts | Gun Control Policy Insights
     
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    You and your Leftist comrades' refusal to face the consequences of your failed policies doesn't make the truth "right-wing fiction":

    US records highest increase in nation's homicide rate in modern history, CDC says
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/06/health/us-homicide-rate-increase-nchs-study/index.html

    But the Left's dishonesty and refusal to face the facts will get its ass kicked by voters as we saw in Virginia and all across the country earlier this month.
     
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    Someone like 'YOU'!
     
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    Tell us falcon, if you were thrown to the ground, hit across the back of your head with a skateboard by one guy, and had a pistol aimed at your face by another guy, would you have a problem first with owning an AR 15, and second, with shooting at one or both of those guys who were about to kill you with an AR 15?
     
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    Yes, those of us who live in the formerly blue Commonwealth of Virginia do realize that. This year we recorded our highest homicide rate in 23 years, and not surprisingly this occurred after Demokrats swept into power in 2017 and the "progressive" Cult of Fiasco started pushing their Defund agenda in 2020.

    To your point in the OP, remember the 2A Sanctuary movement in Virginia?

    2A VA VCDL MAP.jpg
    (Sanctuary districts in green)

    This is when voters here started turning against the Demokrats, and public safety was a huge issue during the last election when Republicans swept all three statewide offices and took control of the House of Delegates (my own swing district sent a Dem delegate packing).

    The Left most certainly shot itself in the foot, and not just on gun control and public safety. Dems were on the wrong side of virtually every issue, and in January a Republican will be moving into the Governor's Mansion for the first time in 12 years.

    And of course, the GOP victory in 2009 heralded the GOP landslide that took place all across the country in the 2010 midterms, and it appears the GOP victory this year is heralding a similar outcome in the 2022 midterms.

    Historic pro-GOP voting gap revealed, potential 70-seat pickup
    by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist |
    November 16, 2021 10:24 AM
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-voting-gap-revealed-potential-70-seat-pickup

    Read my sig, Lefties - Thus always to tyrants....
     
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    LOL. The Democrats constant attack on law enforcement and coddling up to criminals certainly has increased crime. Crime has increased pretty much everywhere, exponentially. Do you deny that crime is going up?
     
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    I understand why you don't like the results of the study. Or any of the studies for that matter that shoot a hole (pun intended) in pretty much all your beliefs about gun possession.
     
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    Why are you against holding the police accountable for bad behavior? Because as far as I can tell that is what Dems are doing.
     
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    I'm actually not against holding certain bad officers accountable for bad behavior but you don't attack the entire law enforcement in the process and demand the defunding of police. And, if criminals don't respect the police then they should pay the consequences if they attack the police, run away, etc - even if they get killed on the process. And, many of the officers accused were making split second life or death decisions. If you want police officers then you can't arrest them for making the wrong split second life and death decisions that may have killed the wrong person. Bad apples? Yes, I'm all for holding legitimate bad apples accountable, but not the entire police force.
     
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    And what is that?

    Someone that started working at 8 years old and didn't stop until they retired.

    Paid taxes faithfully all their life.

    Has volunteered to help my disadvantaged countrymen reqularly and budgets charitable donations as a matter of course.

    Has been a poll worker many times. And regularly works on political campaigns.

    A recognized leader on my community.

    That's what "Leftists" are if they are someone like me. Hardworking, loyal AmeriCANs that love their Country.

    Remember that!
     
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    Another dodge. Why does the possibility of sudden death justify disarming her?
     
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    When have Dems done that when it wasn't warranted?
     
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    UMmmmmmm, pretty much all the time. Anytime a black is killed at the hands of the police, the left want the officer charged, even if it was just one of those split second life and death situations and the officer made the wrong choice.
     
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    Any and all posts I've seen from you and or from leftists on this board haven't shown me that any of you adhere to any of those final three attributes you mention, which would be 'Hardworking' which is the exact opposite of the leftist support of big government and socialism, or being 'Loyal Americans' as they're support of open borders to allow illegal aliens in through our borders, or 'Love for Country' as we see the leftist narrative and sick agenda to discredit, cancel culture, dismantle and annihilate any and all signs of whiteness/historic statues, the burning and or kneeling for the American flag, degrading our National Anthem, and the history of the founding of America.
     
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    Please take your best shot and answer my simple question.
     
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    Every one of my good friends have WORKED hard all their lives and are retired comfortably, I and NONE of them deserve the hate you spew from your "leftist" bucket of fear.

    All of us have never even spent a night in jail, most have served their country and put there lives on the line ... FOR YOU.

    We all display the flag proudly in front of our homes.

    You're ignored!
     
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    It's not a dodge; because you don't agree with my viewpoint you're labeling it as a dodge. I've already answered your question. Re-read it again and digest what I'm telling you.
     
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    I may or may not agree with your viewpoint when you make it known. As of now, I don't understand your position other than you don't support disarming police. It does appear you support disarming private citizens. Is that correct?
     
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    1-3. Guns are not used millions of times each year in self-defense

    We use epidemiological theory to explain why the “false positive” problem for rare events can lead to large overestimates of the incidence of rare diseases or rare phenomena such as self-defense gun use. We then try to validate the claims of many millions of annual self-defense uses against available evidence. We find that the claim of many millions of annual self-defense gun uses by American citizens is invalid.

    Hemenway, David. Survey research and self-defense gun use: An explanation of extreme overestimates. Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology. 1997; 87:1430-1445.

    Hemenway, David. The myth of millions of annual self-defense gun uses: A case study of survey overestimates of rare events. Chance (American Statistical Association). 1997; 10:6-10.

    Cook, Philip J; Ludwig, Jens; Hemenway, David. The gun debate’s new mythical number: How many defensive uses per year? Journal of Policy Analysis and Management. 1997; 16:463-469.


    I'm not here to do your research for you.
     
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