The Left will insure President Trump's re-election

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  1. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Left, in full flower:

    Netflix host Chelsea Handler suggested trading President Donald Trump for the "more sane" North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un in a tweet Thursday night.

    Handler, who also spelled Kim Jong Un's name wrong, referenced his response to Trump's United Nations speech where he said that the U.S. would "totally destroy" North Korea if forced to defend itself or its allies.

    The North Korean leader's statementcalled Trump a "mentally deranged dotard" and "frightened dog" who Kim Jong Un would "tame … with fire."


    "Uhhh. Kim Jung's letter to @realDonaldTrump is a little bit more sane than @realDonaldTrump. Maybe we trade?" Handler wrote.


    Of course, Trump was a democratically elected president while Kim assumed office when his Supreme Leader father Kim Jong Il died in 2011. He has been repeatedly sanctioned for his illicit nuclear program and mass human rights abuses, and he has executed members of his own family to consolidate power.
     
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    Who can we trade Handler for?
     
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    Guno Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and just where are you going to get more poorly educated white guys? he is tapped out with those people
     
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    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    That was precisely the claim in 2016, before the election, by the Left: "Trump will get all the old white men, but there aren't enough of them to win." That's why you were sure Clinton had it in the bag.


    Time will tell. But I wouldn't assume that all young voters are hysterical Leftists.
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Trump won college educated whites. Trump won all of the top three income quintiles. Inconvenient to the "hillbilly" lie narrative you people never get tired of, but plain facts nonetheless.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    ironic since that is what you posted from your extremist alt right disinformation sources..

    How about actual verifiable FACTS to support you baseless allegations instead?

    Oh wait, facts don't matter to those who are gullible enough to swallow the utterly bogus "alt facts" that your beloved BLOTUS spews on a regular basis.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Assumes extremist alt right disinformation NOT in evidence!

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/education-not-income-predicted-who-would-vote-for-trump/

     
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    And you have verifiable facts?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    YOU made the following baseless allegations;

    The ONUS is entirely on YOU to provide credible factual substantiation for your extremist alt right disinformation allegations.
     
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    2015 health care spending was 3.2T.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...han-any-other-country-heres-what-were-buying/


    2001-2015 spending in Iraq and Afghanistan is around 900b directly and anywhere from 3.5-5T when counting future and indirect spending.

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/21/news/economy/war-costs-afghanistan/index.html


    So Now that you have been proven wrong, I will accept your apology.


    As for Medicare/medicaid, this is one of the highest estimates I've seen. Many are lower.

    https://www.economist.com/news/unit...ericas-health-care-system-272-billion-swindle
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your own links PROVE you WRONG!

    Total health spending for the entire nation is $2.7 trillion so your allegation about Single Payer is utterly BOGUS!

    Your "medicare swindle" link is behind a firewall and violates PF rules so that is unsubstantiated by your link.

    Here is a link that WORKS and disproves your BOGUS allegation.

    http://rebrn.com/re/the-billion-swindle-why-thieves-love-americas-health-care-system-543094/

    That ASSUMPTION that it is as high as 10% refutes your FALLACIOUS allegation about war spending.

    On top of that there is NOTHING that substantiates the 10% figure either.

    Your gullibility is not my problem.
     
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    1. You should read again. It mentions that number includes indirect and future spending. Direct spending is around 900b.

    What does the extreme alt left have against education?

    2. I haven't paid for the site so it's gotta be geography or something. The link estimates fraud at about $98 billion between Medicare and Medicaid and 275 billion across our entire health care system.

    3. Your article is refuting mine but their idea of refuting it that Medicare fraud is only 5% of the total Medicare budget. As you didn't notice, I also claimed that that estimate was the highest I've seen.

    4. Adding caps to random words isn't helping you price anything. It does reinforce the extremist alt left hated for education though. You are trying to use emphasis to c9ver the fact that you haven't refuted my claims.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    That you are gullible enough to swallow extremist alt right disinformation that you cannot substantiate says volumes.

    That you need to make up absurd canards about an entirely fictitious segment of the population further denigrates your already shaky credibility since it exposes the utter weakness of your position.

    Nowhere have you proven your own baseless allegations and that you are incapable of admitting to your own failures is typical of the extremist alt right.
     
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    Funny, I could say the same about your violent extremist alt left views.
     
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    1. Calls CNN exit poll data "extremist alt right disinformation," then cites to 538, a thoroughly discredited LW biased site. Can't make this stuff up folks, you can point right to the rake, say "don't step on that" and then watch them walk right into it. Compounding the hilarity, being that they are living breathing poster children for Dunning Kruger, they remain OBLIVIOUS even after stepping on the rake again and again.

    2. Note the obvious weasel wording in 538s claims, "most and least educated counties?" Do counties possess diplomas? Do counties vote? No, people do. So where do these strained yet reasonable sounding comparisons and stats come from? Something called data mining, where they dishonestly run thousands of measures and then cherry-pick out the ones that make their case, ignore the rest. Honest? Of COURSE IT ISN'T. Did they fool you?

    3. Anyway, back to CNN, the purveyor of "extremist alt right disinformation"

    http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls

    READ IT FOR YOURSELF, WHO VOTED HOW. DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS, not mine, and certainly not LW shills' or weasel dataminers. The ONLY reason I cite to the stats from it I do is the bent "hillbillies elected Trump" lie narrative they all repeat and repeat to deflect and project from the fact that Clinton won a vast majority of the low income vote... i.e. those who don't pay ANY federal taxes, have no skin in the game. But if the liars can make it all about education level which is meaningless, and not income levels, they can hide the fact that their constituency doesn't contribute near as much as their political opposition's does.

    Since I last checked, and up to three months after the election, they have jiggered around some of their numbers in the income department (that remained the same for three months post election, yet are now different, CNN chicanery? Who knows). Now they have Hillary tying or slightly winning the "1%." Will let our local LW tell us whether that's a good or bad thing seeing as they "love" the 1% so much. Here are some stats that I "datamine" and find interesting, but again draw your own conclusions from "extremist alt right disinformation" source CNN (ROFLMFAO):

    Trump won college educated whites, therefore any "hillbilly" narrative that omits this context continues to be a flagrant LIE narrative, and anyone who repeats it after knowing that Trump did in fact win college whites is a purposeful LIAR. Did Trump win those with only a HS diploma? Yes, is the fact he also won college educated whites necessary context? Yes.

    Clinton won under 50k incomes by a landslide. Some of this is accounted for her landslide in young (naïve and impressionable :) ) voters. However, not all of it. As the LW is fond of telling us, education levels correlate with income, so accepting arguendo that shaky generalization of theirs, if Hillary landslides among low income, what does that say about the true educational level of THEIR base? Pretty LOW I'd say. If what leftists always say about education and income level is true, it's THEIR core voters who are the most uneducated, not some mythic rural angry hillbilly white man.

    Based on CNN's changes to their data, my retort to the "hillbilly" liars will be "Trump won white college educated voters. Trump won middle and upper income and tied on the highest income, Hillary won low income by a landslide, founding the claim that the least educated people voted Democrat, not Republican" going forward.
     
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    WOW and APPLAUSE!!!! Very well thought out and well written analysis, you nailed it.
     
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    Except that you would be 100% wrong by doing so!
     

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