The New Climate Reality

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  1. bringiton

    bringiton Well-Known Member

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    Why do you keep saying, "all" scientists, "all" the data, "all" scientific organizations, etc., when you know such claims are absurd and disingenuous?

    Oh, wait a minute, that's right:

    It's a justification for an escape from reality.
     
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    I’m not sure why people deny the earth’s climate is and always has been naturally cyclical. Plus why is it automatically assumed that these cyclic swings are a bad thing?

    Storms aren’t getting more destructive. We are just constructing more things in predictably vulnerable areas.
     
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change

    97-98% of publishing climate scientists agree climate change is being influenced by humans. The links to the sources are there in the bottom of the article, in case you don’t know how it works.

    The evidence is so overwhelming that you are on par with flat earthers or ridiculously partisan to claim that man is not influencing climate change.
     
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  4. dagosa

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    No he doesn’t. He already has every university, major corporation and gov on his side. One man’s opinion, misinterpreted or not, IS NOT SCIENCE. Deniers in thier delusional don’t get it. Their house of cards would all fall down.
     
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    That’s ridiculous. Man’s long term climate has never been cyclical. It varies and changes as conditions determine. One of those is the industrial revolution and the increased production by man made green house gas. Deniers are a dying breed.
     
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    Climate influenced by humans is not controversial. Climate influenced by humans with catastrophic outcomes is not a consensus view of climate scientists.
     
  7. dagosa

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    Some how deniers and non science people think a catastrophe has to be a violent occurrence. It’s catastrophic when extinction rates for species is three times the rate it was prior to the industrial revolution and migration from drought areas to more advanced countries is happening much greater then it has before as well. You’re low information status is stunning.
     
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    It’s already had catastrophic outcomes on many species and is getting worse.
     
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    You made up a trend by cherry picking 10 months out of 420.
    I made posted a clear trend by picking 420 months.

    I am still waiting for you to explain yourself about why you think ignoring 410 months out of 420 months gives you a better prediction, then mine.
     
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    . What?
     
  11. Jack Hays

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    Nope. That claim is not supported by the data.
     
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    Nothing has been ignored. All those 420 months are included in my post. What can't be justified is you excluding the data you don't like.
     
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    It’s supported by the many, many species no longer existing that died off at rates far exceeding that of normal climate cycles.
     
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    uhhh.....
    You picked 10 of the highest and lowers peaks. That is taking 10 months out of 420. This is a fact and not up for any kind of debate. lol
    I took the annual average. How is this excluding data?
     
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    So what does a big hole the ozone have to do with climate change catastophe? BTW, Biden isn't enforcing the border anymore.
     
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    Why should he ? They’ll just go work for Trump as illegals.
     
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    You a lightbulb ?
     
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    Btw,you could do a little research yourself instead of asking.
     
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    Man created the hole in the ozone...Biden created the immigration crisis at the border. Figure it out, just once.:roll:
     
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    Medieval warm period was well before the Industrial revolution and was as warm or warmer than today.
     
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    I'll be doing some reasoning with my research and won't rely on Google, for example.
     
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    Gee, you’ll have run to the tele and turn on Fix News then. Say hello to drop out Tucker while doing your research.
     
  23. dagosa

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    Oh man did ? Conservative argued vehemently against that at one time. Same mind boggling switch-around they are doing with climate change now. Your numbers are dwindling.
     
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    Nope. You're still wrong. And even your average turns downhill if you follow it to 2021.
    Our planet’s temperature peaked in 2016 and has been in a disciplined decline since. It is in a channel 0.5°C wide with a slope of -0.03°C per annum. The atmosphere had been warming at 0.013°C per annum according to Dr Roy Spencer’s work. If the established cooling trend continues it will only take another decade to get back to the temperatures of the early 1980s. With the cooling trend firmly established, the question is: Can the proximate cause be found in the solar record?

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    Solar Update September, 2021
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    area by solar hemisphere 1985 – 2021 ... Breaking down solar activity by hemisphere shows that solar activity ... relative length of the solar cycles. ... Figure 6: F10.7 flux for solar cycles 19 to 25 aligned
     
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