The pathology of hatred for Trump

They should NEVER have looked past his "character". Being wealthy and/or claiming to be a successful businessperson... is not any 'substitute' (or trade-off) for possessing good (basic) human character. In my military career, they weighed your 'character' heavily and regularly. As we had to take on roles as leaders in most cases, there was nothing that mattered more overall. With a POTUS, all of that is AMPLIFIED exponentially.

 

Amen to that!!!

 

One need not HATE the current President, to see clearly that he is likely the WORST President we've had. The list of problems and issues with this President is SO LONG. It is not good at all.

He's just plain BAD at being President... and it has nothing to do with people hating him, nothing whatsoever.

 

What the heck has he done that is bad. He's only been there six months. And don't even go to Russia anything as nothing has been found in months and months. He doesn't even have most of his cabinet, judges etc because they're being held up.

 

Exactly.

 

He bragged about sexually assaulting women, which matches all the women who have complained about him sexually assaulting them. He is a bad person.

 

I have learned two things from this. You have a deluded view of liberals and you really don't understand business.

In reality, there are as many businessmen from the left as there are from the right. In some industries, like computers and high-tech just about every businessman, along with the scientists and engineers, is a liberal.

 

He talked about groping women which in another day was bad behavior. It is assault now. He was a womanizer and an aggressive one. That's not tolerated anymore, thank goodness, and many would say he wasn't a nice person. I've heard plenty of men locker talk and I've never done it nor liked it. It's disgusting.

I don't like him but I'm betting you hate the man. He's got plenty of those floating around. But do you fairly hate Bill Clinton for the same conduct (there's no difference in either) or HRC for being the most crooked politician I've ever heard of. Millions of dollars yada.

He's too narcissistic for me and I don't like him. But I don't hate him and I'm willing to see how he governs. I'd bet your hate clouds your ability to see him for what he really is......a jerk at times.

 

Your suspicion is incorrect, in my view as a businessman. Most businessmen are not vulgar, salesmen, crass, materialistic. Some are direct and tough, like everyone else. He wants to get rich, but doesn't care whether you have a job and money to spend. Bloomberg has said that he and trump traveled in the same business circles and that the he and the other millionaires felt that Trump is a con man, among other things. Business people are not hypocrites (touting American products and buying made in America) when they use undocumented immigrants and Japanese steel for their enterprises, and produce in China. Business people don't threaten anybody, except for Trump. His lack of empathy for those less fortunate, his inability to focus for any length of time(no clue about health care, just wants to sign something), his narcissistic disposition, his self centered personality, his pathetic approach to Russia in an effort to cover his tail, his flapping away about what he is going to do for the working and middle class, when his only plan is to make the rich richer.

 

As someone who had relatives living on the Upper West Side growing up, and visits frequently, I watched Trump as well. I remember him all the way back to when his dad set him up in the deal the redevelop the Commodore Hotel. He was playing the tabloid celebrity for the straphanger crowd even then.

All his life, he's had a chip on his shoulder because his vulgar money and celebrity grubbing never earned him the respect of the Park Ave crowd. They still look down their noses at him, and none of the Wall Street banks will do business with him.

That chip is his shield, and his sales pitch. He took his resentment of the people whose respect he craves and sold it to ever angry white man who resented the fact that a black man became President.

 

To continue, most business people that I know are hard working, honorable and pay their bills. Trump cannot be described in this way.
His past is a testament to that, since he has stiffed contractors time and again, justifying it by saying that he paid enough. One of his
problems is his huge ego, since he does not know what he does not know. Reagan did know what he did not know, and formed a cabinet
of people who did know and who gave him excellent advice. Trump thinks that "I know more than the generals". He listens to no one,
and never admits when he is wrong. Rather, he pushes harder. And how about his treatment of women?

 

" am not a member of the right but based upon my inquiry, many conservatives look past his flawed character in favor of his business accomplishments which many hope that Trump can use to make America great again."

This is a part of Trumpsterism that I don't understand.

Business successes? What business successes?

The only really successful deals that Donald Trump has ever done were the redevelopment of the Commodore Hotel (which he eventually sold, after years of litigation with his partners, the Pritzkers), and Trump Tower, which he holds only 25% of. Both of these projects were transformational at the time (although the indoor vertical glitz mall in Trump Tower was a failure).

After that, he went on a spending spree, buying a yacht, a ghost written book, and spending spree in Atlantic City gambling.

He lost all of that spectacularly, and would have lost it all, were it not for Fred Trump, who guaranteed the bailout.

He managed to lose a 77 acre tract of land on the Upper West side at a time when the Upper West side was reviving strongly.

He has been sued over 4000 times in his career, practically once every single business day.

The only things he seems to hold on to are the golf courses and Mar a Lago, all of which are expensive toys.

He claims to be worth as much as $10 billion. But his self reported financial disclosure lists a net worth (almost certainly vastly inflated) of only $1.8 billion. What is significant about this is that is hardly more than what financial experts estimated his net worth as being twenty years ago. When you consider that is in constant dollars, not inflation adjusted ones, the reality is that he has been slowly squandering his inheritence.

 

By acknowledging that whether you like it or not, he *IS* the President and for the next four years, we have to collectively deal with it without putting the country asunder.

 

Probably a better topic would be the pathology of ball-slurping by his pathetic supporters. "LOVE MY DONNIE!!! FOR THE LOVE OF SATAN, LOVE MY DONNIE!!!".

 

I take it that's some kind of homophobic sexual reference(?) We should also do a thread in the propensity of leftists for gratuitous coarseness and vulgarity in political debate.

 

I don't want war with either, and that will never happen. China will invade and take over North Korea long before we ever do anything. NK is their buffer from the western world. War with NK won't happen (in my opinion).

 

It is also their cat's paw.

 

I don't think any US president could get us in a war with NK without China stepping in. Soon enough, China's going to just take over north korea and install their own government. They can't sustain it the way it is now.

 

I think that the government in North Korea has always served at China's pleasure.

 

Yea they have, that's correct. But when they go too far, China will be the one to act. Not anyone else. We'll sit back and say "Sure China, do what you need to do".

 

Why is race always an issue. Most like Obama personally. They didn't like his policies, inaction, non-transparency and scandals and lies.

 

Pretty big assumption
My corporate friends don't hate anyone, leave that to trumpies.
We just laugh at the short fingered vagina grabbing vulgarian.

 

Not my all white old fart bar where nixxer was every 5 min.
His policies were a coverup.
Never mention where reagans bunch were the most jailed in history?
No mention of the 250 marines killed?
But omg 4 inbenghazi? 13 investigations?

 

I guess you got drifted too.
Taxes???

 

In a choice between two people of low character, we were doomed to be stuck with a person of low character no matter who we picked.

I am with you as character also matters to me. Perhaps the problem is that you and I are in the minority, else how does one explain the abysmal choices for president we were left with? There are some very talented people of strong character in America but we were left to pick between dumb and dumber, thus illuminating a serious flaw in our election system.