The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

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    I have suspected for about fifteen years that that time is not limited to being one straight line but instead branches.

    Over in another thread I just received a very specific and pretty amazing explanation for this that is in the language spoken by high level theoretical physicists.

    If........ you and I have been thinking seriously about changing our diet, becoming more physically active, well now we have another possible motivator?!

    The new and improved version of you and I may well get to live out life over and over and over again many times over nearly infinite time in the future, for each time that a moment within our lifetime is recreated and time is spun off in a new possible direction based on different choices that we are all free to make?!

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    And especially notice post #322.....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/science/400055-off-chart-universal-multiversal-models-33.html

    Off the Chart Universal and Multiversal models.


    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This has astonishing implications!!!!!!
     
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    I just had a rather nifty experience.......... after posting this thread I went and attempted to meditate/ do The Prayer of Silence as best as I could.

    http://www.thomastwin.com/10 A Background to Silence.html

    As I was getting into a calmer state of mind I saw an interesting little film......… There was a young girl, seemingly spoiled and impatient and she had a fox on a fairly long leash. The leash was all around the front legs of the fox so the poor fox was pretty well at the mercy of the little girl. I saw her pull the fox violently back from where he or she wanted to lead.......... I was wondering what could this possibly mean???????

    I thought about this for a while and I thought that one possible meaning was, that we as a national group of souls are pulling "Mother Nature/ Gaia" in the direction that we want her to go in...… and she is far wiser than we give her credit for..........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...eform-our-unsustainable-financial-system.html

    How can we now reform our unsustainable financial system?



    Is John Hotson Ph. D. correct in the following assertion?


    http://www.mailstar.net/money.html

    I guess my point is that if I can improve my life through some form of meditation...… then anybody can....... because I have terrible trouble getting my thoughts calmed down!
     
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    I dealt with some of the evidence that originally convinced me of alternate time lines in posts #1 and #7 here:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...2000-election-but-negates-global-dimming.html

    In alternate time line Mr. Gore wins the 2000 election but negates Global Dimming....


    I personally loved the film "An Inconvenient Truth." I have watched it four or five times at least. It played a huge role in my deciding to join a political party that takes climate change very seriously.

    Largely due to his film I actually put in two submissions for The Virgin Earth Challenge.

    I do have one criticism for his film though..... the diplomacy quotient was extremely low and America is more divided than ever partly because of the flavor of his film.

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    ............…


    Could a win by Mr. Al Gore in 2000 have led to America being 15% submerged under the oceans by January 1, 2013?

    Time does look like a menorah....... or tree with branches and roots... … and is not confined to being a straight line...…

    In theory....... Mr. Gore's policy could have ended up greatly decreasing the Global Dimming Effect..... at the same time that it might do little to reduce a general Global Warming trend.... which could lead to rapid warming.....and of course increased cracking and sliding on the land based Greenland Ice Pack.... the world's glaciers and the outer regions of Antarctica......

    Prime Minister Stephen Harper and President Bush may have deliberately allowed somewhat bad policy to continue...… because they probably had been told that the factors that increase Global Dimming..... do tend to mask Global Warming.... .which could mean within five decades we may know that that they may have had a basically good idea..... in comparison to worst possible alternative.....??????!!!

    http://www.baproducts.com/chetmap.htm

    Dr Chet Snow's Earth Change Map

     
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    Another possible rather positive meaning to that little film that I saw in my head that I mentioned in post #3 is that .... the fox could be symbolic of our human ego and the little girl could be symbolic of the humble child within that can drag that ego of ours back from a path that leads to the destruction of this earth, and on a smaller scale of our own lives.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/christian-andreason.html#a13

     
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    I wonder what someone like you would say about the hand-full of "interdenominational reports" you can find on some conspiracy sites.

    You seem so taken by these ideas. Unfortunately I am not a physicist to address these types of issues. All I know comes from maybe a couple of documentaries around string theory, which I'm not even sure covers any of this. But I do recall them explaining that they concluded years ago that with string theory there have to be 11 or 12 dimensions and only gravity is the constant in all of them. But it's been years since I've seen that documentary and I might have even gotten this wrong.

    I think one needs at least a master's in theoretical physicist to somehow productively discuss this issue though. I have only one friend who's got a PhD in theoretical physics, but I haven't seen him in years. And I doubt when I see him, I'll think of asking him about these complex issues... I feel listening to him explain might create a blank stare on my face... I'm a layman in that respect after all...
     
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    Back when I was 20 I wrote the SAT and was told later that my IQ was only 118 but even I can understand the way that near death experiencer Christian Andreason explains non-linear time in chapter 5 of his book........

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

    I also compiled some useful and fairly simple quotations on basic String Theory in this blog....

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/
     
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    I just read another near death experience account that I personally........ am so hoping that the events seen it it can be avoided in this time line..... and confined to another previous time line/ alternate universe.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=351581&page=7&p=1065404301#post1065404301

    I just ran into some heavy information that fits with post #7 from back on page one.

    This isn't exactly funny...… .but it is ironic in a lot of ways.

    An alternate time line in which America is fifteen or twenty percent under the ocean by January 1, 2013....... is a dangerous world for people living in all other nations.

    Although America is an imperfect.....(OK, highly imperfect world policeman)...… there is logic in the idea..... that an imperfect world policeman..... IS A LOT BETTER THAN HAVING NO WORLD POLICEMAN AT ALL!!!!!!!!!

    http://nhneneardeath.ning.com/forum...d-excerpt-by-ariela-solsol?xg_source=activity

     
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    I find it interesting that near death experiencer Gary Plumley met a much older and more powerful version of HIMSELF... during his NDE.

    http://community.humanityhealing.ne...-near-death-experience-and-iq-surges-given-to

     
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    For example................ the book "Clay and Iron" by Dr. William Deagle could turn out to be almost one hundred percent accurate in one time line................. so in that time line Dr. William Deagle would be like an Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel or Zechariah for that time line........

    .... and then turn out to be 90% incorrect in another time line........ and be classified as false prophet even though he may have passed on what he was shown and told as accurately as he humanly could do?????

    What this man was shown in 1996 fits perfectly with the "Iridium System Mark of the Beast" that was shown to Dr. William Deagle...…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P1a6qpA7Fk

    God Took This Man To the End of America-What He Saw Will Shake You To the Core!
     
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    Yesterday we watched three movies.

    Hollywood seems to be obsessed with the idea of non-linear time because two of those three movies dealt directly with this possibility.

    The first movie we watched was "Big Daddy" starring Adam Sandler, the second movie was "17 Again " starring Zac Efron and the third movie that I watched most of myself was "Loopers," with Bruce Willis.

    Back in the '90's I read a book that presented a reasonably powerful case that some of the Hollywood producers were getting information from fallen angels.

    If the book...…
    http://www.amazon.ca/Came-Set-The-Captives-Free/dp/0883683237

    "He Came To Set The Captives Free"

    … is substantially accurate........ then a Yom Kippur event must have occurred because it sure seems like Azazel or other fallen angels must have returned to G-d and are using Hollywood to inspire all of us to rethink what really matters in this life.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...en-angel-return-g-d-divide-kingdom-satan.html

    Does a major fallen angel return to G-d and divide the kingdom of Satan and...

    cause it to fall?


    In a nutshell I have came to strongly suspect that Azazel is the fallen angel who will be somewhat like General Abner who brought the ten tribes over to King David or to Rav Shaul/Paul who repented of persecuting Christians and followers of God.

    I suspect that when the fallen angel Azazel returns to the God of Abraham with his whole heart...when Yom Kippur is completely fulfilled....then a major step will have been taken toward the ushering in of a truly new era of worldwide peace where even the eating habits of wild animals like lions will be altered!
     
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    Here is one possible practical application of this basic idea...…


    .......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=431954&p=1065538873#post1065538873

    Back in 1990 I personally volunteered to be sent back in time to the year in which Adolf was two years old......… offered to the G-d of Abraham/ HaShem/ YHWh to bump off Adolf's dad who beat him up on a regular basis............. G-d could hook me up with Adolf's mom....... I could raise the little guy........ he might not be a sociopath if I applied what I learned from Dr. Ross Campbell, Dr. Gary Smalley and near death experience accounts.........… and voila..... a possible time line could be set in motion in which the holocaust does not even occur????!
     
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    I don't need a degree in theoretical physics to understand that this theory can potentially inspire Mr. Mitt Romney, The Donald, Dr. Ben Carson, Mr. Jeb Bush and the other G. O. P. contenders to be more polite and positive toward each other because........... it is theoretically possible that each of them serve as President of the United States in one or more possible futures that will eventually be created!



    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=433614&page=3&p=1065578986#post1065578986

    Mitt Romney leads New Hampshire poll.... but still not running.
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    Since the multiverse includes an infinite number of possible reality states, you don't need to go back and do that. It's already been done without you or any other time traveler. The timeline without the holocaust has no impact on the timeline with the holocaust. It's the old paradox of going back in time to kill your grandparent so that your father and you won't be born. In that case, your father and you would still be born in a different timeline. Maybe. Or maybe not. Who is to say which way it works.
     
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    Wow!!!!

    You are very probably correct!!!!

    One of the really big questions on my mind at this moment is the possibility of us entering a time line in which the Jerusalem Third Temple is constructed and operational by Jews and Levites by the year 2030 as opposed to a time line in which the Jerusalem Temple isn't rebuilt until 2070.

    I strongly suspect that the year 2215 .... in the 2030 Third Temple time line.......will have a lot more healthy, wealthy and wise people living who are looking back at a vastly less violent history than might be the case in the 2070 Third Temple timeline???????

    (post #11, 12 and 13 elaborate on this possibility)....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=432571&page=2&p=1065586554#post1065586554
    Is a Unified Theory of Modern World Problems even possible?



    I began to use this phrase about five years ago.
     
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    One of the heaviest ideas that fit with Multiverse Theory..... (as I understand it anyway)… is whether or not when all of the people and animals here in four dimensional space - time from a moment in the past are replicated.......... are the ghosts, hungry ghosts, demons, devils, fallen Watchers and other unhappy life forms of fifth, sixth and seventh dimensional space - time replicated as well???????

    If so....... then this would imply eventual universal salvation in some form for fallen angels, and fallen Watchers, and fallen aliens and fallen former humans.... and even fallen animals......."(the hounds of hell)"...…

    Now..... let's say that as you read this there are several "ghosts" and perhaps a demon or two or three reading this along with you....... because watching you and guiding you toward self destruction is their job.............. If they begin to ask themselves this question then something of a philosophical earthquake can begin in the Void Realms..........

    A ghost perhaps stuck in fifth dimensional space time could see you..... but a demon or devil right beside both of you in sixth dimensional space - time ... would be invisible..... An alien or higher level devil from seventh dimensional space time energy could observe you... the ghosts... the demons... the devils.... but be unable to see an angel right there beside all of you!

    http://www.near-death.com/science/research/void.html

    The Void and the Near-Death Experience
    ..................

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...en-angel-return-g-d-divide-kingdom-satan.html

    Does a major fallen angel return to G-d and divide the kingdom of Satan and...



    cause it to fall?

    In a nutshell I have came to strongly suspect that Azazel is the fallen angel who will be somewhat like General Abner who brought the ten tribes over to King David or to Rav Shaul/Paul who repented of persecuting Christians and followers of God.

    I suspect that when the fallen angel Azazel returns to the God of Abraham with his whole heart...when Yom Kippur is completely fulfilled....then a major step will have been taken toward the ushering in of a truly new era of worldwide peace where even the eating habits of wild animals like lions will be altered!


     
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    I admit it........ I am guilty of being biased toward a world dominated and in a sense "policed" by America!

    One particular near death experiencer saw a world where America was somehow knocked out as policeman of the world....... and wow....... that time line was horrible beyond our comprehension!!!!!!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=427918&p=1065683178#post1065683178

    Rise of the Self Autonomous Robotic Drone.
     
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    The real problem is that our world policing policy is being directed from the kabal/illuminati behind the facade of elected officials. The American people are not being justly represented. What those in control have been imposing on the rest of the world is a perversion of the true honor and integrity of the American people. The kabal includes people like some of the Rockefellers, who are linked to the Rothchilds, a nefarious group that are spread around several parts of the globe. Various nations outside of radical Islam are rising up against America because they are fed up with abusive and deceitful actions from the kabal. We may be stuck with a sinking ship if control is not soon enough wrested from the foul sociopaths who have usurped positions of great hidden power.

    Fortunately, possible future timelines are not written in stone. Our only hope is that the freewill intent of a sufficient portion of mass consciousness reaches a tipping point towards favorable change.
     
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    Back in 1990...… a number of months after my dad passed on........ around Yom Kippur .... I volunteered to play out the role in life of a "Yom Kippur goat" if..... YHWH/ HaShem/ The G-d of Abraham and H-s Moshiach/ Messiah had any use for one.........… As I live..... I will deal with the Rockefellers soon........ These are not stupid people and they know the importance of a Yom Kippur goat for them......… in comparison to a Passover Lamb........

    One of the other possible implications of Multiverse Theory..... as I understand it anyway..... is that we all have astonishingly good reason to be glad that in this time line..... the continental USA and Canada are not about twenty percent under water as may have occurred in some other possible time lines as indicated by the Helen Wambach Ph. D. and Dr. Chet Snow research...........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=407875&page=28&p=1065685528#post1065685528



     
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    Good points but..... any of us can see how this theory might perhaps have application to the results of the next USA election!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=439640&p=1065727674#post1065727674

    Trumpeters - My proposed knick name for Trump supporters

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    Wow !!!

    I directed somebody over to the opening posts in this discussion and their response is in my opinion...... both brilliant as well as as accurate as anybody could write at this time!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=294632&page=4&p=1065754080#post1065754080
    Corpus callosum in women may have 30% more connections than men!!!!!!


    ........
     
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    Excellent Dennis! The more focus we get upon the enigmatic facts, the more impetus towards functional action we may find.

    One thing is certain. Our society is the equivalent of a three ring circus. Only by realizing that, and leaving the tent, or box (as in partisan politics) and observing the real intents of the framers who forged the agreement founding this great experiment called America, can we hope to have comprehensive reasoning prevail in whatever space we collectively inhabit.
     
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    Sir................. I sometimes get a fairly powerful impression toward somebody after I read some of what they write. For example......… it wasn't long after Canada's P. M. Stephen Harper assumed office until I began to get hit with the name "Rehoboam, Rehoboam" almost every time that I read an article about him or heard him speak.

    At the time that I heard this...… I really didn't know what that meant.......... but in the light of the latest federal election it has became much more clear. Well......… after reading some of what you write over these past days I feel that you Sir....... are being guided to become a powerful force in Hollywood.

    I wish to give you non-exclusive rights......… to use anything that I have ever written in any way that you choose.......... or any part of anything that I have written....... I want you legally free to use it in any way you wish including to vehemently disagree with anything that you feel is an error!

    Over here in this other discussion are several paragraphs from a book that I recently read about a near death experience that took place in 1967......…

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=390023&page=10&p=1065766717#post1065766717

    ........... as you will be able to see from this....... I am highly motivated to attempt to the very best of my ability to alter the future in many positive ways.......... Here is a link to one of my Facebook notes I am hoping that you may be able to use in some way?

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/turk...ician-the-film-series-concept/310416062401072



    Canada's Worst Politician, the film series concept?!.

    November 29, 2012 at 8:14am



    But.... I also would like to voluntarily write you up something that is exclusively yours...… because in a sense you would be the star and you would be starring as yourself. By posting this publicly this gives you a link that you could give to anybody who you feel is going to help you out!

    Is it true that a Facebook time stamp....... in combination with the fact that I use my real name both on Facebook as well as here..... is usable as evidence in a court of law? What more would I need to write to give you clear legal title and freedom to use anything that I have written?
     
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    Dennis I think one of the implications of an infinite multiverse, like AboveAlpha describes, is that if there is a higher power or something out there directing events, that there could be a change in the baseline reality. Where a God, or something, could take the time between two points and decide to change what happens in that time period???

    But then the surrounding timeline might remain the same as they old, just with a different piece there in the middle somewhere? Where perhaps a different, or even better outcome takes place???

    Okay, well anyway that was something I thought about.
     
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    The multiverse fantasy is complete BS. Most physicists think so, anyway. Even if other universes exist, there's no way to observe them, and attributing anything to the "multiverse" is comparable to saying "god(s) did it."
     

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