The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

Kamalayka...... I do truly appreciate your getting into this discussion but if you doubt the ability of AboveAlpha as a genuine theoretical physicist just take a look at the answer that he comes up with for Wgabrie.... within only a few hours............. (posts 691 and 692):

http://www.politicalforum.com/science/400055-off-chart-universal-multiversal-models-70.html

Off the Chart Universal and Multiversal Models.
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I get the impression that Dr. Chaim Henry Tejman felt that they could perhaps be observed through hypnosis.

If Dr. Tejman is correct...... this would help to explain some of the amazing results that Helen Wambach Ph. D. got.

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/Book7/Hypnosis_time _travel_machine.htm

Hypnosis time travel machine.

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/Third Book/Hypnosis.htm

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Have you read anything about the intriguing research done on twins?

 

This article may fit in with this theory?!

http://www.iacworld.org/out-of-body-experience-a-tool-for-research/
Multidimensional Reality at Our Reach – Out-Of-Body Experience: A Possible Tool for Self-Research as Well as Formal Research

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The "universe" implies "everything"....if it's not everything, it's not the universe. But whatever you're dosed on, I need two just so I can relate...stuff really gets you going, huh.

 

If you mean me......five thousand mgms of MSM daily or more.... combined with lots and lots of coffee!

Low cost and natural relief for back pain...... but it also seems to be a mental stimulant!

But what about the "invisible space - time dimensions" postulated in String Theory?

Aren't these in a way.......... other universes....... in at least some sense?

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

 

Some of them have been explored and described by Tom Campbell via OOBE method. The process is as likely to be valid as remote viewing.

Most physicists are fans of the old paradigm that has been beating a dead horse for the last 90 years despite experimental demonstration that undermines it. It's not going to last much longer.

 

I completely agree!

The old overly simplistic model is nearly dead.

Research along the line of that conducted with Ingo Swann is simply too compelling and will eventually win out over intellectually dishonest extreme skepticism.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingo_Swann

 

Speaking of "impetus toward functional action!"


http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=380561&p=1065818030#post1065818030
America: Imagine the World Without Her

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Dramatic, but pedestrian.

I would rather see a movie about an America undivided by war, OR BETTER YET,

If these words by Lincoln,

"the people are the rightful masters of the congress and the courts, not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow the men that would pervert the constitution"
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had led to the Article V convention he is indirectly describing.

Where law prevailed, the law of the land. What truths would we know now that came out through the purpose of free speech then making all amendments have constitutional intent?

How different would our world be? What would we know about the south and why slavery was a part of their society? What would learn about the emotions of both sides that were instead turned into vicious lethal warfare between families and communities against the constitution? Where would America and the world be be if the act of 1871 never happened?

Imagine what a beautiful uplifting, illuminating story would be told.

 

Imagine what a wonderful world we would have today if Lincoln could have reached enough people with enough understanding if our lawful and peaceful revolution to get the people defining their prime rights and imposing them on states to get states working together for the proper, lawful preservation of the republic.

 

I'd like to see the Parallel Universe where Dennis didn't obsess over NDEs.

 

I suppose each night we go to sleep is similar to a near death experience upon awakening.

I mean the unconscious is somewhat available if one seeks methods to reach it. The trick is coming back with coherence, not overloaded and applicable relevancy.

 

Imagine what America would be like if the infiltration of the federal had been stopped from completing in 1860, and the civil war never took place.

The immense debt that was used to justify the subversion of the federal government would not have been created.

It seems the south would have made a comprise to end slavery after a period of time. Perhaps 20 years, but beginning in 10 years.

The Supreme Court probably would not have given individual rights to corporations, so the Industrial Age would have probably been quite different when it got started.

The Titanic would not have been built.

Perhaps Tesla would have been allowed to develop his energy systems.

When Marconi invented the radio, it would have provided a method to educate the people about the constitution, history, medicine and the sciences that were just expanding.

World War I probably would a much smaller conflict without America involved.

Tesla would have invented the telephone, and who knows, a wireless phone with no batteries!

Call in talk shows helping Americans to form opinions would have been happening.

Henry Ford would be building hemp bodies for his cars while ethanol from hemp and corn would be as common a fuel as gasoline.

Hitler would not have received the economic backing of American industrialists so probably would not have gained enough power to start WWII

America would not have tried to cut Japan off from the Phillipines, which might have been rough on the people there, but Pearl Harbor would not have happened.

Of course none of the presidents we had would have happened, and there would have been no need for the hydrogen bomb. That right there represents something so huge in itself it's possible to imagine a world without war.

Seems to me that things get so completely different about that point, speculation is not really even possible there are so many possibilities.

If only Americans have stood for natural law of the constitution over all else and not allowed the manipulation that led to war,

 

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have got to send what you just wrote on to an author friend of mine....... Robert Mendelson, author of "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land."

Today when I woke up, the internet wasn't working so rather than going to the forum here and starting to hammer away at the keyboard I began to read GPPFTHL again for the fourth time..... and it was as if those other three times that I read it merely set me up to finally begin to actually understand it.

http://www.godspeaceplan.blogspot.ca/2014/07/gods-peace-plan-for-holy-land-peace.html
Preface

I also need to link this discussion with.......

http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...jamin-netanyahu-lets-get-into-production.html
P. M. Benjamin Netanyahu, let's get into the production of....
.... semi reality science fiction film projects that are partly financed through alternative local currencies, and/or State currencies, and/or community currencies......... that address specific problems that human beings are facing now in 2015?

 

ChristopherABrown.... I just got back a brilliant explanation as to WHY my English ancestors twisted central banking policy around in such a way that would tend to enslave the average American!

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=384573&page=5&p=1065846737#post1065846737

Perhaps....... a Canadian who feels some genuine guilt over the actions and beliefs of my ancestors...… might just be able to get an important idea across to many Americans who like to know WHY certain things were done?!


http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-how-we-behaved-during-revolutionary-war.html

We Canadians owe Americans an apology for how we behaved during Revolutionary War!

................ This could set the stage for something colossal...… to grow up here in Canada and the USA......…

 

LOL! You can read about it in chapter 5 of Dannion Brinkley's book....."Saved By The Light" and it is kind of scary!

What he saw happening from 1975 on for a number of decades sure fits with the Book of Revelation...... but in our time line the worst events have been delayed and delayed and delayed......... so people getting into NDE accounts may be one important part of the formula that is producing a better time line?!?!

 

This is interesting.....

https://angelicview.wordpress.com/2015/11/08/the-mandela-effect-a-new-field-of-dreams/#more-4624

 

I just got back an extremely interesting reply to this topic.....

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/lynnclaire-dennis.html

 

My understanding of String Theory..... and how the most fundamental forms of energy operate at SOME TRILLIONS of the level of energy that can be attained in a particle accelerator indicate that the powerful statement made by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to Pastor Rick Joyner in a visionary dream of heaven......... is right in line with high level theoretical physics.

 

I was just given a phrase that ties all of these various phenomena together.

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=422285&page=6&p=1066071321#post1066071321

Do you believe in the Paranormal? ...


Here is a blunt analysis of some aspects of psychic phenomena / medium-ship that I have never read put so bluntly before:


http://revolutionaryspiritualism.yu...iH-Chapter-1-The-Search-for-Spiritual-reality

 

That link is a rich one. I'll have to read more of it later.

Tom Campbell has another explanation. Communication with one's deceased "Uncle Joe" is not actually with him if he has since progressed to other levels (the afterlife is not about loitering around forever, waiting, and stagnating). It's a fabricated response from the larger consciousness system based on the data base. From that it can readily determine what would be the appropriate response or something very close to what Uncle Joe himself would give. The LCS may adjust or color the response in a way that may be in the best proper interests of the inquiring party.

According to A. E. Powell in The Astral Body [1927, 1972, 1978] a soul that dies on the astral plane leaves behind a disintegrating corpse (a process similar to leaving behind a decaying physical corpse on the material plane) known as a shade. In progressing from the astral to the mental plane, the individual may not have succeeded in withdrawing the entire contents of mental principals from the astral body. That which is left behind can be sufficient to be mistaken for the individual himself. The vestiges are always less than the best principals of the individual. Thus its responses can very well be uncouth or aberrant.

Advanced disintegration of the shade produces a shell. It can be temporarily galvanized by the activity of a medium. Despite its total lack of consciousness and intelligence, it may extract enough energy to do a rough character simulation of the departed. A vitalized shell is one that is seized by an "animated elemental" i.e. a fervently or passionately created thought-desire form. These are always malevolent. Voodoo can hijack shades and shells.

It's surprising that Powell's insight supports some aspects of the sections you cited from the link:

 

I posted the link to your reply to the author..... and he replied:

I rather like the theory myself........ I had never really ever heard it before....... but it definitely fits with some of the research into the paranormal that I have read.............

This idea of a part of us staying behind..... while another part of our over - soul moves on......... that has astonishing possible implications..............................


I am a firm believer that we have some sort of an "over soul"......... so how greatly can this "over soul' divide and divide??????

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

 

Interesting. The author seems to stop at the level of the astral plane, as if everything is just astral and the familiar physical below. That doesn't jive with the late Bob Monroe (Campbell's sponsor) who has described his experiences with his own mental body pulling out of the astral body and having a much greater range of travel. Which one is correct is a dealer's choice if a person hasn't yet become capable of doing such things personally.

Also, it seems he is not impressed by Campbell's digital larger consciousness system. IMO, there's no way anybody is going to bump his digital LCS out the picture that easily.

Which one are you referring to as "the theory"?

Some sources claim that several concurrent individual physical incarnations can belong to one oversoul. I'd like you to meet my brother Darrel. And this is my other brother Darrel (remember that goofy hillbilly show many years back?)

P.S. Like Campbell says, it's all a matter of what the individual perceives and interprets.

 

I think physicists are starting to push the boundaries of what we can know and having a little too much fun.

This stuff is all based on very abstract mathematical models that may or may not have some truth to them.

 

To some degree that could be true......
but personally I am rather impressed by what near death experiencers are being shown about theoretical physics...
even during their out of the body experience.


http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/lynnclaire-dennis.html

Lynnclaire Dennis' Near-Death Experience