The President of Gays for Trump thinks the trans agenda may....

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is certainly an interesting viewpoint.




    The president of Gays for Trump thinks the "trans agenda" may slow down gay progress

    All I know is that a higher power is working out a great plan here
    in four dimensional space - time that will eventually explain all mysteries
    and seeming injustice.


    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/christian-andreason.html#a11

     
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    Too late, the 'trans community' has already done too much damage. They're currently working on 'phobing' gays and lesbians, because they (Gs and Ls) aren't interested in relationships with transgenders.

    The LG community should have seen this coming, and detached itself from the trans community ages ago. The two have nothing at all in common. It's as odd as linking the LG community to the Coeliac community, or the Aspergers community.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Yeah Riley Dennis (youtube transtrender) called me "transphobic" because I don't want to be with a woman that feels like a guy.

    He/she actually said sexuality is a choice.
     
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    I actually don't think that the T should be in LGBT . Transgender is completely different than being Lesbian Gay Bisexual
    Being attracted to another sex or both is not in the same grouping as transgendered.



    They are riding the LGBQ coat tails
     
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    At the time when the label was created transgender folks were seen as homos.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for these comments. I have got to make sure that
    I forward this on to my Facebook friend Mr. Peter Boykin!
     
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    If Tansgender people are such a small minority,
    how do Transgenders have any real influence on anything ??????
     
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    I completely agree. I have seen that opinion so strongly held by female gay rights activists who are gay leading to violence against a transgender throwing a hissy fit demanding to be called by female pronouns. One such gay female kicked her/him in the nuts so hard it dropped him/her to the floor, to her sneering down at him: "Do you FEEL like a woman now?"

    Many feminists, gay and straight, find the transgender claims to be exorbitantly offensive and demeaning towards women. No, being a female is not just wearing a dress, makeup and trying to speak in a feminine voice. Some feminists feel VERY strongly about this claiming the slogans of the transgender movement are a horrific set of lies and that any man who has his genitals cut off believing this makes him a female is severely psychologically disturbed.
     
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    So, just a question, but why would a gay man want a trans FTM? It's not like the plumbing changes...."innies" don't suddenly become "outies"... I've heard the same kind of name calling expressed from the T crowd.
     
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    I have no idea. I wouldn't want to date an ftm. They are women. I have no idea why they insist everybody play along in the sack. I'll be polite in public. I'll call them how they wish to be called. But that's as far as it goes.
     
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    Being gay is perfectly acceptable in my opinion. Gay marriage- totally fine with it.

    But these people pretending to be a gender when they are not...I won't get on board with that.
     
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    I don't have a problem of any kind with Transgender, it does not affect me in any way, much ado about nothing.
     
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    I feel much the same. If anything it hurts real LGBT issues.
     
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    Precisely. I've once seen a debate poll (not on this website, somewhere while searching on Google) that asked whether or not a transexual person should disclose that they are transexual in a "one-night stand". While I have no personal issue with transexuals, I absolutely agree that sort of information is essential for that type of sexual encounter. I consider anything less rape by deception.
     
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    Interesting.........
    your comments seem to also be relevant to the topic of Gay couples adopting unborn children as well........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...expansion-of-a-womans-range-of-choice.525506/

    Gays for Trump and expansion of a woman's range of choice.

     
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    I’d suggest that if you’re jumping in to bed with a complete stranger, you have to accept whatever surprises you might end up with and that goes equally for transsexual who ends up with someone who will react badly to finding that out.

    With an actual romantic relationship leading up to sex, both partners should have shared enough personal information beforehand so that there is unlikely to be any huge surprise in the bedroom.
     
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    That makes sense. But being in bed with strangers is something certain people enjoy, and I feel that certain laws would need to be made to help these individuals stay comfortable in their recreational activities. This way they don't need to sacrifice the benefits of "one-night stands".
     
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    This. I hope to see this non-disclosure added to the definition of rape, legally.
     
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    That goes without saying. But in the event there is no preliminary romance, non-disclosure is still assault. It's not what the other party consented to, so it's rape.
     
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    Even when plumbing is faked up, the person remains the gender they were born. It's that which our particular sexuality is essentially attracted to ... along with general appearance preferences etc.

    Trans people will never be regarded as their assumed gender, sexually or romantically - by 'cis' gendered people of either sexuality. A tiny number will be okay with it, but these will be so rare and so 'out-lier' that they don't even register.

    If more of these disordered people considered the above before transitioning, we would not have a 40% suicide rate. But we are talking about delusional people, not sane people. And a big part of the delusion is the fantasy that the world will see them as the gender they want to be.
     
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    If someone intentionally makes no effort to find out anything about the person they’re choosing to sleep with, I don’t see how they can object. It would also raise the question of what else would have to be disclosed to avoid the threat of serious legal action. There’s no end of things some people might strongly object to (with varying and debatable justification) that wouldn’t naturally be shared in these circumstances. Some people might object to bisexuals, significant age differences, mixed racial backgrounds, various medical conditions. Or how about having a strong revulsion to transgender people? ;) Neither party in your example is really in a position to complain about the situation they got themselves in.

    I don’t think it’s possible to predict what a random stranger might object to so in these circumstances so it’s only practical for the responsibility of the person who knows they have a specific objection to disclose that (or at least confirm it isn’t an issue) rather the responsibility of both partners to reveal every personal characteristic which someone else might possibly object to.
     
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    They don't its the virtue signalers, the people that want to show how accepting they are that have influence. Frankly I think they hijacked the trans identity to use that way
     
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    Change that to categorized as, not seen as, the ones doing the catalogues are not LG.

    Bisexual and Trans etc... have nothing to do with LG anyway.
    It really is simply just LG anyway.....
     
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    Well bisexual is a sexual orientation as I would group them in with homosexuals. I wouldn't say LG those are both words for homosexual.
     
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    Homo = one
    Therefore, Bi-Sexual that can go either way do not qualify as Homosexual, as they can be in a Heterosexual relationship or a Homosexual relationship or simultaneously in an open relationship with both.
     
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