The real Islam

We're going back to the beginning : )))) so you see all muslims as terrorists because of suicide bombers have civilian clothes and every single muslim can be terrorist with civilian clothes . Then I see all nonmuslims as terrorist because they can be soldiers in civilian clothes : )))) Enjoy it LoL : ))))

 

That is what I want to know from that one. What is the insignia, the flag, the battle flag if any…

No.

If to you there is no difference between the man in shorts and the veiled woman, the IFF sees both as murderer. Try and keep up.

 

You see like Shaitan.

Identification Friend or Foe, or IFF is an electronic system I worked on, and keyed sometimes in the Squadron.

Al Quacka killed all the Muslim civilians that were killed because they attacked wearing no war paint or insignia of a nation; they do not limit the enemy.

Our soldiers wear uniforms so humans can tell the difference between friend and foe. Our soldiers wear insignia so the enemy can tell who they are at war with.

You kind of inhuman followers of Shaitan wear no uniform or insignia, that is why you got dead that you would like to claim are civilians. How retarded are your kind? You dress like a civilian and blow up, I have news for you, you are a bomb and all of your KIND are bombs.

 

Ronaldo is confusing Islamist with Islamic. I didn't say an extremist party won the election; I said an Islamic party won the election. The Pakistan Muslim League won 166 seats (almost a majority), which was up from 89 seats in the previous election. The largest moderate party, the PPP, fell to 40 seats from 118 seats.

AS FOR THE ELECTION VIOLENCE:

On 28 April, the Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for two bombings at the offices of independent candidates. In Kohat, a bombing at Noor Akbar Khan's offices killed six and critically wounded others. In the suburbs of Peshawar, a bomb at Nasir Khan Afridi's office killed three people.[The next day, at least eight people, including the son of Afghani cleric Qazi Amin Waqad, were killed and 45 others were wounded in a suicide attack in Peshawar. The bomb had targeted Sahibzada Anees, a senior city administrator, who had just passed the area. Hilal was a part of the Afghan Hich Peace Council and was organising a meeting of Afghan and Pakistani religious scholars to oppose militancy.

The same day, at a Karachi press conference the leaders of the PPP, MQM and Awami National Party said that the attacks would not stop then from participating in the election. ANP Secretary General Bashir Jan said that his party had previously made sacrifices in relations to the 2012 assassination of Bashir Bilour, the former party leader. His statement followed an explosion that wounded three children near the election office of Mohammad Ahmed Khan, the ANP candidate from Charsadda in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa.

On 2 May, a bomb exploded outside the MQM headquarters in which seven people were injured. On 4 May, at least three people were killed and 34 others were wounded when two bombs targeted the election office of the MQM in the Azeezabad area of Karachi. In a rally in Kurram Valley, at least 15 people were dead and over 50 injured at a Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam rally for candidates Munir Orakzai and Ain u Dun Shakir. The rally was part of the faction led by Fazal-ur-Rehman. The latter was slightly wounded.

Scattered gun and bomb attacks marred an otherwise celebratory day. By the time polls closed in the evening, at least 20 people had died in attacks, the most serious targeting a pro-U.S. political party in the southern port city of Karachi. The violence, which included blasts outside a political office in Karachi that left 10 dead, capped a bloody election season.

More than 130 people have been killed in bombings and shootings over the campaign, prompting some to call this one of the deadliest votes in the country's history. Several bombs were reportedly defused before voting began on Saturday morning, according to Al Jazeera. No one has so far taken the responsibility for the attacks, except for the initial two blasts in the coastal city of Karachi, claimed by Pakistani Taliban.

 

Okay no problem , you're killing civilians by seeing them as suspicious , likewise bombers blow you up : )))) you accuse all muslims by looking at the behavior of extremists , then bombers accuse all non muslims by looking behavior of your soldiers : )))) look at your left side , shaitan standing next to you : )))) LoL nope I dont think to blow myself up , I'm so young and I have beautiful dreams for my life : ))))

Good bye : )))) friend ....

 

Listen, Al Quacka is Shaitan, so when they attack wearing civilian clothes it is as if they killed all civilians. See Koran:

“[5.32] For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our apostles came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.”

Pay attention, there must be logic:

That whoever slays a soul [wearing civilian clothes] it is as though he slew all men.

Pay attention to what was taken out and replaced. The murderer is not wearing a uniform of justice (he is not a police in uniform fighting manslaughter or the mischief in the land of Al Quacka) and neither is the Al Quacka.

It was Saddam and Al Quacka that attacked like a murderer in civilian garb, that supported it with Hamas...that killed every civilian killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, as though they slew all men. How do you see murderer? Do they have tattoo that say, "murderer" on head?

My uniform was easy to see. Al Quacka was like murderer, as they slew all men.

So if you think Al Quacka is the same as police you are follower of Shaitan. Koran says so.

 

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That's the problem with you. You see one Muslim commit a crime you want to make that a into a case against all Muslims.

Just because PML has Muslim in its name does not mean it is an extremist party or wants to implement Shariah. It is actually as moderate as the PPP. In the last elections PPP got a lot of sympathy votes because of Benazir's death and a lot of Pakistanis voted for PPP because they believed in her. But since her corrupt husband took over the party, Pakistanis have lost all faith in the party and in fact the last government has been the most corrupt ever. So to anyone with even basic knowledge of the politics there, this came as no surprise. You of course have repeatedly shown that you have no knowledge of any of the facts but only want to make up the facts to suit your agenda.

 

And you are saying now that the MQM is a moderate party? It is a party of thugs, nothing more. But US has always had a love affair with such parties and has helped such parties come to power in many different countries. Taliban for one. Saddam Hussain and his party for another.

And oh, good news for you, thanks to voter rigging, MQM more or less maintained its share of seats. I am sure that makes you very happy.

 

My uniform had a flag, and an atom for my rate. I know not to kill squaw.

Those that dress like squaw, like Al Quacka, and blow up people it is like they kill all squaws.

We will be careful and try not to kill French squaws, that drive too fast toward sign in potential bomb, and only attack those your beloved Al Quacka warriors designated as targets.

Have you learned the lesson yet? If you put on civilian clothes and shove bombs up your butts it is as if you killed all mankind, and tell that to your PLO and Hamas…but if you insist We will teach you again if you are thick about the head and need another lesson.

I just try to stop killing of all squaws by Al Quacka supporters.

 

When a citizen commits murder do you capture that citizen ro go to war against the whole country?

In war, civilllians are often targeted and saying otherwise is just an outright lie.

 

If the citizen murderer is the leader of a nation that we gave parole to, with the requirement that they stop supporting murder, and they continue to support murder, we may have to go to war against the whole country; normally we just go after the murderer with kid gloves to keep from harming civilians. The host country should handle it, but if they do not someone will like a bull in a China Shop.

If supporters are building salami bombs they are targets, I worked for a defense contractor so I know, that is why the Bell Bomber plant had no windows so we could work at night and not get bombed.

Do you have a point?

 

I wonder if you see all muslims as enemies why you support FSA in Syria , you see them as ally forces : ))))) They are muslims . isnt it hypocrisy ? : ))))))) So we can understand that you killing innocent people deliberately : )))))

 

I don’t see all Muslims as enemies, those who dress up like Muslims and blow up people see all Muslims as enemies. They are the ones that have killed all humanity.

I do not support anyone in Syria, that would be our Obamanation that does whatever there.

Operation…Freedom is about freedom of Muslims to vote for their Great Leaders so the likelihood of having to send the police after their murdering Muslim leaders will be less likely.

“That whoever slays a soul [wearing civilian clothes] it is as though he slew all men.”

Did that offend you?

 

But you were defending that all Muslims should be killed , because bombers getting dressed civilian : )))) and now you say I dont see muslims as enemies , are you drinking anything ? : ))) vodka , whiskey , gin : )))))

you cant offend me : )))) just you can make me laugh : ))))

 

Wrong. You are factually incorrect about Taqiyyah and about everything else in your post as well.

 

Yes you can. If I kill somebody, then state that someone else in prison for murder is a murderer, that is a statement of fact. The fact that the US has terrible foreign policy does not excuse the conservative elements of your religion, meaning many Muslims in the Middle East, being either terrorists or theocrats where their countries are ruled by 2000-year-old social policies and traditions.

 

That's why Muhammed was born and died on a Monday?

Just stop with the lies.

 

Of course not all Muslim were or are terrorists, Lien. If they were the world would be studying the histroy of Isam without benefit of a current Islamic voice, on the other hand terrorism has been a part of Islam going back at least as far as the Hashashin.

 

Since as you said, “a killer cannot blame another killer of being a killer,” therefore, stop blaming.

You create the targets.

A police man’s justice system can blame a murderer in civilian clothes for being a murderer, and it is typical that the murderer who uses civilian clothes to facilitate murder, and his allies, most surely will blame the police for bringing him to justice.

Muslims were repeatedly warned:

“Throughout 2000 the Taliban continued to host Usama Bin Ladin despite UN sanctions and international pressure to hand him over to stand trial in the United States or a third country. In a serious and ongoing dialogue with the Taliban, the United States repeatedly made clear to the Taliban that it would be held responsible for any terrorist attacks undertaken by Bin Ladin while he is in its territory.” http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2000/2432.htm

All those deaths are the fault of Islam, as it should have been Islam that waged war against them. We should have never had to go there, but we did have to go there:

Sunday, 30 September, 2001, 16:54 GMT 17:54 UK:
"'We do not accept the presence in our country of a single soldier at war with Muslims or Arabs,' Prince Sultan said in comments published on Saudi Arabia's official Okaz newspaper on Sunday." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1571689.stm

"Saudi Arabia said what?
'You can’t kill an Arab or Moslem;'
No matter the murderous plot,
We respect them?" (Sun 30 Sep 2001 09:03:18 PM EDT)

You know the verses, and so does this one:

"Muslims would not be killing other Muslims. They would not be using Arabia to launch strikes on Muslim countries if they were actually Muslims.

Read the Quran
it's all explained in there" (Abu Sina) http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...-backed-wahabi-fanatics-6.html#post1061567723

Muslims shoving a salami bomb up their squat to leak civilian clothed asses to wage war is equivalent to putting a target on all civilians, it is equivalent to the attempted murder of all mankind. It is more than sad that a topic on the Real Islam and not the media version always finds just one more that equates a civilian clothed bomber to a uniformed man bringing justice to their insane mischief-makers.

“hey there,
i am here in this forum from now on. we can post back and forth regarding religion. if you need any info in the real islam and not the media's version,…” (muslim, posted August 30, 2001 03:50 PM)

I have been there before.

Until Muslims see the difference between the murderer in civilian clothes and a war plane bringing justice, until you police your insane swamp of inhumanity and take the lead in bringing Arabs and Muslims to justice with the war they deserve, and admit of their wrongdoing in Afghanistan and Iraq against US, don’t expect others to think of your kind as anything other than degenerate Black Stone Idolaters that can’t tell the difference between the police bringing justice and a murderous nation just begging for an old fashioned carpet bombing.

 

You speak so much but so unnecessary .

You're not the police of the world . Al Qaeda attacked you because they thought usa exceeds the limits . They warned you before attack but you didnt care them .

In this world you cantt move the way you want , there are people here with dignity , there are people freedom crazy .

You have no right to occupy a country because of one person (bin laden) , you have no right to kill all civilian people because of a man with civilian dressed blew you up . This is terrorism . You have no right to raid homes and destroy families . you have no right to bomb people randomly , if you dont accept yourself as terrorist then I dont accept Tsarnaev brothers as terrorist .


: )))) okay , I'm asking last time , are you terrorist ???

 

Myanmar. Pay attention.

 

I'm not even a Muslim and I know that this is a lie. Maybe Lien or Ronald0 can help me out here with the surah and verses, but there is a passage in the Qur'an that describes Jacob seeing, in turn, a star, the moon and the sun, thinking for a moment that they were God, but rejecting them when they set.

"I cannot worship a God which sets."

In the surah al Baqarah, verse 172-173, the Muslim is forbidden to eat foods over which any god other than Allah is mentioned. In surah Al Ma'idah, verse 3 along with pork, road kill and blood,the faithful are forbidden to eat that which was sacrificed on stones set up to honor other gods or that which was divided between them by use of the divining arrows, which is a rite of Hubal, the Arab moon god. In verse 5, the foods of the People of the Book are made lawful to the Muslim. Thus, all kosher foods are halal. This would not be so were foods over which the name of another god were pronounced over them. Thus, the Muslim worships the God of Abraham, not the pagan moon god.

 

No, I am not a terrorist and the US was not terrorists in Afghanistan or Iraq, but your ilk obviously should be expelled from civilization if you think Al Qaeda was justified. And we had every right to occupy both Afghanistan and Iraq and to remove the threats to the peace as per the UN Charter due to their NATIONS being repeatedly warned:

“Throughout 2000 the Taliban continued to host Usama Bin Ladin despite UN sanctions and international pressure to hand him over to stand trial in the United States or a third country. In a serious and ongoing dialogue with the Taliban, the United States repeatedly made clear to the Taliban that it would be held responsible for any terrorist attacks undertaken by Bin Ladin while he is in its territory.” http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2000/2432.htm

When the Nation of Afghanistan did not heed the warning their Nation paid the price of support for murder, so it was not because of one person but because they chose sides.

Yes, the United Nations Charter which we were following in Iraq is the police of the world:

“H32. Requires Iraq to inform the Security Council that it will not commit or support any act of international terrorism or allow any organization directed towards commission of such acts to operate within its territory and to condemn unequivocally and renounce all acts, methods and practices of terrorism;
I
33. Declares that, upon official notification by Iraq to the Secretary-General and to the Security Council of its acceptance of the provisions above, a formal cease-fire is effective between Iraq and Kuwait and the Member States cooperating with Kuwait in accordance with resolution 678 (1990);” http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/sres/sres0687.htm

And Iraq the Nation violated that and the final warning of UN resolution 1441, and allied themselves with murder, they chose sides:

“March 5, 2003: Bus bombing in Haifa. U.S. citizens killed: Abigail Leitel, 14, who was born in Lebanon, New Hampshire.” http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/usvictims.html

“The suicide bomber was 20 years old, a student of the Hebron Polytechnic University (from which a large number of suicide bombers have emerged) and a member of the Hamas terrorist organization.” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/861590/posts

March 13, 2003: “(CBS) Saddam Hussein has distributed $260,000 to 26 families of Palestinians killed in 29 months of fighting with Israel, including a $10,000 check to the family of a Hamas suicide bomber. In a packed banquet hall on Wednesday, the families came one-by-one to receive their $10,000 checks. A large banner said: ‘The Arab Baath Party Welcomes the Families of the Martyrs for the Distribution of Blessings of Saddam Hussein.’“ http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/14/world/main543981.shtml

March 17, 2003: “The regime has a history of reckless aggression in the Middle East. It has a deep hatred of America and our friends. And it has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al Qaeda.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030317-7.html

I know full well why Al Quacka attacked us, who their allies were (Iraq), and I know our own domestic traitors warned us:

March 1997: "Though Bin Ladin had promised Taliban leaders that he would be circumspect, he broke this promise almost immediately, giving an inflammatory interview to CNN in March 1997. The Taliban leader Mullah Omar promptly 'invited' Bin Ladin to move to Kandahar, ostensibly in the interests of Bin Ladin's own security but more likely to situate him where he might be easier to control.73
There is also evidence that around this time Bin Ladin sent out a number of feelers to the Iraqi regime, offering some cooperation. None are reported to have received a significant response. According to one report, Saddam Hussein's efforts at this time to rebuild relations with the Saudis and other Middle Eastern regimes led him to stay clear of Bin Ladin.74" (The 9/11 commission report, page 65-66)

July 1997, South Movement, "the path of Jihad and proper action": "Those who desire to face up to the Zionists conspiracies, intransigence, and aggressiveness must proceed towards the advance centers of capabilities in the greater Arab homeland and to the centers of the knowledge, honesty and sincerity with whole heartiness if the aim was to implement a serious plan to save others from their dilemma or to rely on those capable centers; well-known for their positions regarding the enemy, to gain precise concessions from it with justified maneuvers even if such centers including Baghdad not in agreement with those concerned, over the objectives and aims of the required maneuvers." (On the 29th anniversary of Iraq's national day (the 17th of July 1968 revolution). President Saddam Hussein made an important comprehensive and nation wide address) http://southmovement.alphalink.com.au/countries/Iraq/speech.htm

December 1997, South Movement: "'If the United Nations fails to respond to the Organization of the Islamic Conference (meeting in Tehran) then the Muslim world must act and defy these sanctions,' Farrakhan told an audience of union representatives in the Iraqi capital." (Louis Farrakhan) http://southmovement.alphalink.com.au/southnews/Dec12.htm

September, 16th, 2001: "Whenever a nation becomes great and powerful by God’s Permission, as America has; whenever a nation becomes the undisputed ruler of the world, as America has, by Allah’s Permission; when a nation becomes the only remaining superpower, having the power to destroy other nations and people by the tens of thousands and millions, as Allah has permitted America the power to do, and that nation then has a spiritual lapse and begins to sink into moral decline, the Qur’an teaches that Allah (God) raises a messenger, but he raises that messenger from among the poor and the abject to guide and to warn the great and the powerful.

Allah (God) knows that the powerful will not heed a warning coming from their ex-slave or from the weak or from the abject, so the Qur’an teaches that Allah (God) then seizes that nation with distress and affliction, that it might humble itself. For only in humility can the proud and the powerful heed the Guidance of God, which is mercy and grace from Himself. Allah (God) used this tragedy, hopefully, to bring a great nation to Himself." (Louis Farrakhan) http://www.africawithin.com/farrakhan/farrakhan_response_911.htm

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The difference between “Real Islam” and Jesus is starkly clear. Jesus stopped the guy who had the sword hidden under his garment, and would never murder all mankind by dressing in civilian clothes and murdering over a cartoon or truth about a Satan led Slave Booty raping false prophet:

“31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." (Matthew 12:31-32)

 

MQM is moderate by Pakistani standards. If you can point to a Pakistani political party with Centre-Left Western sensibilities and ethics, please do so. But it is apparent Ronaldo would rather find small faults in those he should ultimately support than look at the huge faults of those he should ultimately oppose. Stalin referred to such naive intellectuals as "useful idiots, and who am I to disagree with such an icon of the Left?

P.S. - nice dodge in not addressing the meat of my post, by nitpicking at one small part of it.

 

: )))) Okay no need to speak so much , I dont like people those who speak so much . So finally you said Usa isnt terrorist , then suicide bombers are not terrorists , they are honorable warriors : )))))

Thanks , enjoyed so much : ))))