The real reason Medicare is struggling

Discussion in 'Health Care' started by NMNeil, Apr 24, 2019.

  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the OP made it up...I'm simply taking him at his word that was the bill.
     
  2. hawgsalot

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    More Care, I'm more than skeptical about that. We've all seen the Death panel over there and not allowing patients to be allowed to come to the US for treatment the last few years. We have to admit at some point that a small country the size of new mexico isn't the same as providing for the US or even England. There is zero doubt that care will not be as good if it's government run period. There is way more our government should to get costs down do but single payer isn't going to work here.
     
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    Costco doesn't carry them. But I think the problem is with the pharmaceutical company not the pharmacy.
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    But I did find it at other Costco's.
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    Sorry, my numbers were off.
    Canada.
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  4. ECA

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    He definitely made it up. Put it this way...at one of the hospitals I work for the OR charges for a partial face transplant is $35K. I would say there's a hell of a lot more involved in a face transplant than a hernia, wouldn't you agree?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, so you were unaware that Americans are fatter and sicker than ever? 1 in 3 are diabetic or pre-diabetic. I am surprised you didn't know that. If you are going to join a discussion about health care, you should at least know the basics. Would like some links or are you google savvy?
     
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    What?!? "Fake news" to support an agenda that hospitals are baaaad and illegals aren't to blame for anything? Say it ain't so.....
     
  7. struth

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    Yes.
     
  8. EarthSky

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    Yes there are queues for non - emergency procedures. But on the other hand everyone including the homeless guy in the street gets treated and no one spends their life savings on medical care for their sick or dying children.

    There are cases of long waits but on the whole a far more cost - effective and efficient system than private healthcare in the US.

    Last surgery I had was on a broken wrist and I was in surgery the night after my accident.
     
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    That has nothing to do with VA care, Doofensmirtz. Please show us the links and evidence that VA care is a failure. I assure you it is not. What we have are fat people reaching for a donut and sitting in front of the TV instead of drinking water and going for a long walk in the park.
     
  10. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Try responding to what I actually posted. The VA issue is in a different thread.
     
  11. ECA

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    Exactly right. It's simple science....burn more calories than you take in. Eat/drink in moderation. Eat more healthy food than junk food.
     
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    I did respond. Medicare is not struggling either.
     
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    In the US we have specialists for hang nails. You can usually get right in.
    Seems simple, but.
    A second study from the National Center for Health Statistics at the CDC showed that 39.6% of US adults age 20 and older were obese as of 2015-2016 (37.9% for men and 41.1% for women).
     
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    Actually, the same happens here. And if your child doesn't qualify for some weird reason for the S-Chip program, there are ample no cost hospitals you can go to as well.

    Families never pay
     
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    That's because those people are glutinous lazy pigs.
     
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    You don't understand why they have to charge so much do you? lol.

    Let me share with you a secret. They have to charge more, because... wait for it...... wait for it.... wait for it....

    They provide free care to illegals that don't pay their bills. If they don't charge others more, they go out of business like tons of SoCal hospitals have been doing for the past 20 years.
     
  19. struth

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    I hope the left runs on that...raising taxes on working Americans always goes over well. It certainly however doesn't address the problems with these programs in the long run
     
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    At least you are honest about only wanting to take money from working people without any concern for their health. Most thieves lie about it.
     
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    Illegals cost .02 of 1%.
     
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    Hospitals tend to surprise their outgoing patients with the high price tag.
     
  24. mdrobster

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    Well according to the hospital, yeah, but I seriously doubt the patient in this case used $42k of services.
     
  25. HB Surfer

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    Bull crap... I have watched dozens of California Hospitals close because if illegal aliens receiving health care and never paying the bill.
     

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