The real reason Medicare is struggling

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please don't edit my comments for content. If you would like to emphasize a particular part to respond to, emboldening, italicizing or underlining are all great ways to do that without compromizing the context of my responses.
     
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  2. Distraff

    Distraff Well-Known Member

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    So you think these costs really amount to $42,000 for an hour of treating a single person? Post a reasonable breakdown of these costs and show this is the case.
     
  3. ECA

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    There is no way in hell a hernia surgery cost $42k. I already asked the OP to post a pic of the bill but he claims he doesn’t know how to. In other words he made it up.
     
  4. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    posting personal photos can be a pita here. idkw: i can post any image I want from my pc, but I can only post from a third party upload site from my phone, and more often than not it glitches and turns the photo into a million lines of nonsensical code...

    just fyi
     
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  5. Distraff

    Distraff Well-Known Member

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    That is a fair response. However, the cost of even individual medical procedures cost far more in the US than in other developed nations. Its very clear that healthcare in the US is overpriced.
     
  6. ECA

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    I didn’t ask him to post a person photo.
     
  7. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    wouldn't a scan of his bill be a personal photo?

    ie: a photo not available via link on the www
     
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    I agree medical costs are overpriced. But I know a hernia surgery does not cost $42k.
     
  9. ECA

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  10. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My phone wont let me do that.

    Or, at least, PF won't let my phone do that. One or the other.

    Maybe his doesnt either.
     
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  11. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry.

    The "two-patriots" referred to in my post was talking about two people who I personally know who are quite proud of their plans to "beat the system", but the immediate sentence that explained was deleted by my sometimes addled brain.
     
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  12. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Don't like it? Move to a country that has cheap medical care, take a number, and hold your breath.
     
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  13. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, theres lots of people who are scammers. Theres also lots of people who dont want to be forced to pay for something they dont intend to use. The two groups may even have overlap. But generally equating one to the other is falacious.
     
  14. Distraff

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    I am past the OP's claim. You asked for evidence, and he refused to provide it. Case closed.

    I do think that healthcare is always going to be expensive but that healthcare in the US is most definitely way overpriced. For example, in the US hernia treatment costs about $5,500, often even going over $10,000, but in the UK, costs only about $2,800 on average.
     
  15. ECA

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    Phones aren’t the only way to access this site. Tablets or PC can be used.
     
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    Ok, will do.
     
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    Of course those countries that suffer long wait times and lack of funding for hospital equipment.
     
  18. Distraff

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    Some developed countries suffer from long wait times for specialist care, others do not like Switzerland and Germany. For primary care, other developed nations have wait times that are actually shorter than the US and people spend more time in the hospital and see the doctor more than they do in the US. In addition, American often put off care for years, thanks to the high cost of prevatative care, which effectively mean that Americans do wait longer, even if they are on the waiting list shorter. Americans are far more likely to suffer from advanced and preventable disease.
     
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    I don’t know what all was done.
     
  20. Distraff

    Distraff Well-Known Member

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    I guess that is for the OP to answer.
     
  21. Paul7

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    Illegals on Medicare are part of the problem.
     
  22. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. As I stated, its quite easy to do from my PC.

    But not everyone has a PC.
     
  23. ECA

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    This was done with my phone
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    WOW. $42,000 for a short stay in hospital. That is absolutely incredible. Now apply that amount to illegals who use emergency rooms like they're free clinics, or to the pregnant illegal women's health care costs which range from $9,000 to $250,000.
    https://www.thebump.com/a/how-much-pregnancy-costs
    Some of the high costs of hospital care is due to high cost of insurance, and to cover the costs of the uninsured.
     

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