The Religious Exemption is LOL

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by modernpaladin, Sep 14, 2021.

  1. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    If robbery is a religious belief, should the employer not reject him?

    Nobody is being denied work for religious beliefs. That's illegal. The restriction is because of a pandemic. If that falls under a religious belief, there are exemptions. What else should we exempt based on religious belief? How 'bout work? Can you fire me for not working if laziness is a deeply held religious belief?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Donor

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    My reply was addressing a position of "no exemptions" while claiming support of "choice". A position of having to choose between consuming a pharm product or losing your livelihood cannot be considered support of choice. How about we require "Never had an abortion" ID cards for employment?

    Laziness is not a religious belief unless you are a government employee!
     
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    Their belief is not being used to deny any of those. No where in any religious texts exists a passage commanding the faithful to refuse a vaccine.

    Religious faith ends when it impacts another that is unwilling to participate. Freedom of religious belief does not mean freedom to force others to do whatever they want.

    I support religious freedom — I do not support religious control.
     
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    Again. That is the state forcing something.
    If an employer wants to refuse employment to people that have had abortions that is their decision.

    I adore how all of your scenarios involve force by the government and you compare that to freedom of the individual.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you oppose control unless you agree with it? You support choice as long as you agree with their choice?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Donor

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    Were you not aware our government is working on deciding (Forcing) policy on employers with 100+ employees?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well I think everyone should. On that we can agree. And technically everyone can ...its just that some of them might have to lie about it, as it is.

    As I said in the OP, its a big copout for fedgov, wanting to make authoritarian mandates but not actually back them up with authoritarian force. This nonsense is the result.
     
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    I support limiting government and allowing individuals to make their own decisions.
    Why don’t you?
     
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    That seems to be the new way of skirting around the constitution. Texas laid the groundwork and now local, state and federal government will likely follow suit.
     
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    I have already said I am against that.
    Several times.
     
  11. Doofenshmirtz

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    My position is clear and consistent on the issue of government overreach.

    I appreciate you clarifying. That position is not consistent with your prior posts opposing exemptions.
     
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    Government forcing businesses to accept false religious exemptions is government overreach. As is forcing businesses to test employees or mandate vaccination.

    How so?
     
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    The absence of force negates need for exemption.
     
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    What do you believe is being exempted and under who’s authority?
     
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    The absence of authority negates the need for exemption.
     
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    Regurgitating a previous statement shows the lack of a point.
     
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    I am not the one supporting heavy handed employment discrimination based on personal beliefs.
     
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    You are advocating for a heavy handed government to step in and force employers to behave a certain way.

    You can reframe it how you want — I simply support choice and freedom.
     
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    This entire post is false. I never said what you claim and you absolutely opposed choice. I will leave you alone in your tangled web.
     

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