The Republicans, the Destroyer of Worlds

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  1. Papastox

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    So, if Obama and the Democrats have done such a fantastic job with our government and how well we are all united, why didn't the American people keep them in office? Why after the elction have Americans rejected the Democrats running for office? Perhaps it is not the fault of Republicans, but rather the fault of Democrats that our nation is so divisive. Big government only serves to CONTROL the people. I don't want every aspect of my life controlled by Washington. That is socialism and I'm not into that. Look at the failure of socialist countries. They don't work.
     
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    Obamacare improved health care for a small minority of Americans, not all Americans. What we had prior to Obamacare was better than Obamacare. Why don't we go back to that and tweak that to fix its deficiencies
     
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    The "new" Republican party are mostly birthers IMO, that are not true conservatives. They are a threat to freedom.
     
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    The more Trump destroys the world of the liberal left, the more likely I am to support him.
    So far, he's done a pretty good job.
     
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    How would you describe the "new" Democratic party -- the one that burns, loots and shoots people at baseball practice?
     
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    because before Obama care, which is only about ten years ago, there were plenty of people uninsured, and we didn't see huge waves of natural fatalities. The death rate actually increased under the ACA.
     
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    It's pretty hard to measure medical fatalities when those people are NOT seeing doctors to begin with. Duh!

    But if this butt bird of a health care bill goes through, it will kill millions. Over 100 million people in this country suffer a chronic illness, and when chronic illnesses are not treated properly they became far more costly when they arrive at the emergency room and hospital and increase the odds of death, usually prematurely.
     
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    The vacuum of Saddam's regime is a FACT, and no amount of US troops was going to fill it in a country divided by religious factions that date back hundreds of years.
     
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    Trump is uniting Americans with the global community.

     
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    To the OP:

    And you people wonder why some of us think many like you have gone completely off the rails?

    And aren't you the one who just the other day thought the U.S. had three billion people?
     
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    So what you are saying is that for the couple hundred years this country has been around, there has been a holocaust of people with pre-existing conditions? If there was, then Obamacare hasn't helped, cause the death rate has increased. And calm down will ya? This is a healthcare bill that hasn't even been passed yet, not a tactical nuke.
     
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    Regardless of its final structure, the Republican version of Trumpcare will benefit insurance companies and the ultra-wealthy instead of sick Americans. The news has been filled with stories of those helped by Obamacare and Medicaid over the past week, so the idea that Obamacare helped people isn't an illusion.
     
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    Obamacare doesn't apply to everyone, but has helped the ultra-poor when nothing previously available did. But some of the Obamacare provisions have helped all of us by forcing insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions without extra expense, insure children thru age 26, and several other improvements over what was available before Obamacare. I remember American healthcare before Obamacare, and I certainly DON'T want to return to that system.
     
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    Yeah for everyone it helped it hurt a dozen, It was a law that literally murdered middle class folks.
     
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    Dude they already had medicaid. In fact most of the gains in people with health insurance were new medicaid enrollees.
     
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    A b-29 required ten crew members per plane, and Oppenheimer had just watched two cities turned into radioactive sludge by twenty guys who returned from the attack without a scratch.

    What larger picture are you referring to?
     
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    The US has not "gone completely off the rails" as is amply demonstrated by the Mar-a-Lago Messiah's 36%approval/57% disapproval.

    I don't know what you are referencing, but does your number include the "thousands and thousands" of invisible folks cheering terrorism in New Jersey and the "3-5 million" imaginary folks that cost the Messiah the popular vote?
     
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    Most Americans are united with the global community in overwhelming agreement that Trump stinks.

    That gets his cult in a tizzy, but that's the way it is.
     
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    I wholeheartedly agree with this statement :).
     
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    I disagree, but I do appreciate the simple clarity, and the brevity, of this, your latest baseless derision of Trump.
     
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    Your world view is then limited.
     
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    Why are you claiming that President Trump has "cult like" followers? I've seen no evidence of that whatsoever. Most Trump supporters seem more reluctant than anything.

    And the only person I ever saw referred to as "the messiah" was President Obama. Or President elect Obama a month or two before he took office by one of his supporters.

    I'm not counting Sean Hannity's mocking references to him as "the messiah".

    Once again, this shows why the Trump critics cannot be taken seriously. The obvious hatred you have for not only President Trump but for the people who support him.
     
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    Assumes extremist alt right disinformation not in evidence.
     
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    No. It's seems Nattys is. He's discounted the opinions of many nations leaders. Netanyahu, Salman, and even Trudeau have expressed positive views. There are others, and there are exeptions ... Assad, Kim, Khomeni, and Putin certainly most prominent of Trumps detractors ... just want to clarify who your aligning yourself with.
     

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