The rise of anti-science

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  1. Robert E Allen

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    People are tired of being told how to live..

    I like owning a truck and eating beef and i have the God given right to do those things.
    I do not care what anyone thinks about what that does to the planet.

    If that is anti science i don't care..

    My Freedom is vastly more important than you're perception of what my actions do to the planet.
     
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    Science and all of it's theories and discoveries and evidence, etc. etc. etc. is an open-minded doctrine...a discipline...forever and always open to NEW INFORMATION and CHALLENGING ideas.

    However, criticism from outside of the science discipline is somewhat meaningless until that criticism is presented and processed within the science methodology. It's kind of like demanding everyone believe there is a Santa Claus...meaningless until the person can prove it in an acceptable methodology to be a fact...
     
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    LOL! You don't even know what an ad hominem reply is.....
     
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    God invented trucks? That's a first.
    So you're willing to stink the planet up for a steak and some exhaust fumes? That says a lot about you.
     
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    There are no Gowd given rights??

    The 'planet' is the ONLY place humans have to live and survive...the more the 'planet' is abused the greater the pain and suffering when it's pay-back time.

    YOUR government bans murder and YOU must abide...this is not about YOUR freedom...
     
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    The rise of anti science huh? What a crock..

    It's more like the rise of the use of science to shame and control people....

    The new nazism will be perpetrated by those trying to save the planet.
     
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    That is the 'anti-science' that this thread is about.. the RELIGION of science, which is, in reality, anti-science or pseudoscience.

    Real science is a method.. a system of discovery, and does not employ bullying, censorship, jihadist zeal, and other tactics that we see regularly from the anti-science promoters.

    It is a MISUSE of true scientific methodology, and a hijacking of the term, 'science', for ideological and propaganda purposes.
     
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    ..very ironic.. you counter a charge of 'ad hominem!' with ad hominem.

    'to the man'.. really. Look it up.
     
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    The planet needs to be saved for future generations. That's not nazism.
     
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    The German people need to be saved from the jews.
     
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    This thread seems to fall into the category of seeking to find wriggle-room for ideas which don't fit into the accepted scientific framework; just because it suits the particular worldview, and probably a religoius or quasi- religious one. It should be moved from Science to Religion.
     
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    Only by those whose religion is evolution and insist that others goose step with them on it..
     
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    What a strange comment. Would you care to explain further?
     
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    You want to use science to control people..

    It's not strange at all. It's a direct comparison.
     
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    No, i don't think it.. it's a matter of fact a religion..
     
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    Man, you're weird, I don't know what youire talking about.
     
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    You just don't want to understand it, do you, because it contradicts your religion. There are none so blind as they who will not see.
     
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    Of course you don't.. either you don't understand history or you don't understand how science is being hijacked for political control or both
     
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    Has nothing to do with my religion at all. It has to do with the fact that no one observed creation so there is no way we can knoe how ut happened. Evolution as the origin of life will be a theory until we can time travel and see for sure.
     
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    You're getting weirder; you said the Germans need to be protected from the jews, which is manifestly untrue, and equated that with scientific study? Are you well?
     
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    Does evolution include creation? Where does it say that? As far as the origin of species by means of natural selection is concerned, we can time travel. We have the fossil record, observation, and DNA data. There is no doubt about it all.
     
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    Science at the time was used by the Nazi's to tell the German people they needed to be protected from the Jews.
     
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    Natural selection is mostly true adaptation is mostly true.

    We cannot time travel, we can look at the fossil record and make assumptions about it..
     
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    "Self-correcting Mechanism"

    Godless Leftists insist with a condescending air of smug self-satisfaction, "Science has a mechanism of self-correction". Well duh! So does every human alive. So does every animal alive. So does every plant alive. How does this common trait of living organisms make "science" the ultimate, magisterial enterprise they pretend when in fact it is as ubiquitous as, and practiced by, bacteria ‽ (interrobang)

    Moreover, science's "self-correcting mechanism" is arguably the slowest such mechanism known to man. For example, Haeckel's drawings, ostensibly demonstrating the evolutionary saw , "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny," was exposed as a fraud in 1859 in a German court. Ernst Haeckel admitted that he faked the drawings because everyone faked science. His phony drawings continued to be published as "science" as recently as 2003.

    "Science advances one funeral at a time." - Max Planck
     

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