The Sciences of Time - Does Time Have A Beginning?

Quantum mechanics states that what seems like an empty space, is actually not empty. It is alive with dynamic activity of simultaneous creation and destruction of energy on the subatomic scale.

 

That's almost correct but please pay attention to the '''not actually empty'' part of your post .


What you're referring to is different context than the absolute empty space of a void . ''Invisible'' spatial content such as air , gives the perception of empty space as do ''invisible'' spatial fields . However , this ''invisible'' content occupies the spatial void .
The curvature of space to be specific , the spatial fields curve relative to the absolute stationary reference frame of the underlying spatial void .

 

Take note :

An infinite spatial void

Can't be created or destroyed

No thing exists

No time

No light

No darkness

Absolute transparency .......

 

Take note :

This diagram is not identical to the previous diagram

Time exists

There is countless Universes

There is light


p.s Mediocre minds may not apply .

 

What you seem to be referring to is a "something from nothing" concept..
It's often used by creationists and in IMO has no place in a science forum.

 

take note

Mediocre minds are still better than mental illness.

Some brains are infinitely void yet for some reason retain the ability to type.

Celery exists.

There is Ranch Dip.

Where are the Hot Wings?

 

The tree that fell in the remote forest made quite a bit of noise, although nobody heard it.

The mountains and the rivers and the great wide earth, and the sun and the moon and the stars are all matter in motion and subject to time.

 

So, what time is it in your dimension? Get my meaning, now? We tell time. If no human was alive, things would happen without a need for anyone to know when.

 

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If there were no humans or animal sentient beings, the minerals would keep on sleeping, in motion, passing through time and space, knowing nothing.

 

Sure, from a human perspective.

 

Space is not nothingness. It is as real as matter, energy (matter all riled up), and time.

 

Then I'm quite sure you will have no problems in explaining to the readers what a void is made of ? i.e empty space (no physical things).

 

There is good reason that cosmologists and astronomers do not use the word "Void" when explaining space. Space is full of things from planets and suns to quarks and dust. There really is no vacuum of space either as you probably think it.

 

It is apparent that you are generalising space and reply with contradiction to the point you're trying to make .

''Space is full of things from planets and suns to quarks and dust.''


I would not disagree with that statement , space , independent of things , is full of things. We can in thought remove all these things thus leaving space . There is no way in thought to remove space , you're welcome to comment .

 

"Space" like time are the fabric everything else adheres to and can thus be thought of as an infinity. No boundaries or limitations can be found for either. Please explain my "Contradiction".

 

Some aspects of time can be better understood by thinking about lightning and thunder
If lightning strikes several miles away... we will see a flash, then later hear the roar of thunder
We understand that our perspception of sound is delayed by sthe speec of sound
What we do not realize is that the same thing is happening with the speed of light
The light we see therefore is delayed a tiny amout due to the speed of light
All of our perceptions of reality are delayed in this way
For us, the lightning happens when we see it
But other people will live in a different bubble of perceptive time
Time also shifts somehow based upon our speed

Ultimately we consider our own time bubble to be “real” time
But that is a subjective illusion
Since there are an infinite number of time bubbles that each have their own time
It is hard to say that time exists except in the context of some bubble of perception
Our perception of time is how our mind interprets the stimuli it percieves
Just as we see the color red... but red is simply how our mind interprets
A Certain part of the electromagnetic spectrum... but actually there is no red per se
Same with time. Our organism interprets stimuli we percieve and organizes
Those stimuli into our idea of time. But time has no objective meaning
Outside our consciousness
Our conscious creates time as part of our consciousness
We create consciousness to deal witn living here on earth
When we start talking about different contexts... the human consciousness does not really make much sense.

The original post is trying to extropolate human interpretations of reality far beyond the context for which it evolved. For instance... it makes no sense to talk about what happened before the big bang.
Likely there was some sort of reality... but what ever that reality was.... it was incomprehensible based on our consciousness. Among other things, neither space nor time existed before the big bang. How can we conceptualize a reality without space or time?

 

Your contradiction is that you recognise space is full of things in one breath , then in another breath interwove space with things to be a single independent continuum . However , Einstein was considering space - time as the spatial fields that occupy the space and consideration for , that spatial fields are indistinguishable from space , hence the space-time continuum.
What this implies and proposes , is that relativistic space-time , i.e spatial fields , occupy the underlying absolute space .
I'm pretty confident you will agree and accept that spatial fields and space are independent of each other ?

 

Your commentary does not make sense to me....perhaps I am simply slow. One of us is confused so.....have A Nice Day

 

Yes,
Except for the Malice in Blunderland part.

 

Study up.
It has also been discussed on the Pluto / Planet thread


The Modern proposal is that if the object clears all debris from its' orbital path,
it counts as a planet.
If it don't it don't

Moi's last upload on Pluto this thread.
Wrong place.

 

Actually the planetary criteria is:

1) Orbits the sun and not another body.
2) Gas sufficient mass for gravity to create a Shere.
3) Clears its orbital path.

Pluto has 2 of the 3 but has not cleared its orbital path as it is in the Kuiper belt. There are also many object of similar size that we have found there and I personally think Pluto will not end up the largest.

 

It is interesting to contemplate being able to view the entire Universe in the moment but also knowing some of the objects we're looking at are 13.7 billion light years 'ago' and not in this moment? Many of the objects we are viewing no longer exist. We are viewing light that has traveled 13.7 billion light years but are not viewing actual objects. And even the objects which we can optically see, like the Moon, or a person one mile away, what we are seeing is not in the moment but in the past, and the greater the distance the greater the past...all of this way above my pay grade!

A couple of decades ago when I retired from day-to-day work, I stopped wearing a watch and purposefully tried to ignore what day of the week it might be or what date it was and not think about what 'time' it was and life is better for me. When I die, it might be said that I ran out of 'time', but actually 'time' just keeps going into perpetuity no matter my existence. If I was born and stranded on a deserted island, and went about my business hunting and gathering, would I have any concept of 'time'? I would notice the sky changing from light to dark on a fixed frequency but would I have any sense of time...I think not. Just think how simple life would be if no one was to ask 'what time will you be done?' or 'when will you be home?' So...does time exist?

I was thinking about a water hose 20.0 billion light years long, in which 13.7 billion light years ago someone turned on the water spigot, with the water moving at the SOL, and just now I can see the water running through the hose. And the water keeps rushing past me...forever. What this means I have no idea?

 

Assuming we truly are eternal beings, time is a construct we use to measure occurrances of events. Kinda like asking where the end of space is.

 

We are viewing a snapshot in time. The Universe won't look anything at all like it did 13 billion years ago. If we want to see what's in it, who's in it, and when the photo was taken we got to look at the writing on the back for references. The photo per se is just a snapshot of a certain moment.

And yeah, life is much better on sun time. 11-15 thru the 18th I spent in a tarp shelter in De Soto National Forest and walked out the morning of the 19th. No cell phone, cameras, or electronics of any kind, no watch. Those frills ruin the experience. Hell yes, you could die out there, but nothing could be better.