The Solemnity of the Blessed Virgin Mary....Jan. 1st

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    Among the Twelve Days of Christmas, the Solemnity of Mary is observed on January 1st every year in the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church. It sometimes gets lost with the secular celebrations. It is a feast day to celebrate Mary's motherhood, the Mother of God.


    https://nationaltoday.com/solemnity-of-mary/


    Lets remember....
    Catholics do NOT worship the Blessed Virgin Mary. She is an intercessor for us...who else in heaven would help us more than Jesus' mother. God selected Mary to be the vessel to bring forth Jesus to the world. She was extremely special, conceived without original sin, never sinned and was assumed into heaven body and soul. God did not allow corruption of Mary's body when she passed.

    Do you actually think that God is just gonna throw her to the wayside? No, she is the Queen of heaven and much more.
     
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    The Catholic Church and its followers need not reconcile anything.

    Christ is the cornerstone to our salvation...
     
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    Ah, appeal to authority. Gotcha
     
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    I'm not a Catholic, but I'm attending a catholic university, so I'm woe to say anything against Catholicism lest I be excommunicated and lose my progress towards my degree, but I have to ask:

    What about Jesus's brother?

    Mary had a family. God didn't take her up into heaven after Jesus was born. She and Joseph were married and had a family.
     
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    As you see it....
     
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    Jesus did not have any blood brothers or sisters. If a person understands how the language is used back then you would know that the term "brother" refers to various people who are related to Jesus. John the Baptist would be considered his brother but in actuality he was Jesus' cousin.

    The Blessed Virgin Mary was assumed into heaven AFTER Jesus suffered, died and rose from the dead (then ascending to heaven).

    For someone who is attending a catholic university....you intellect and attitude is noticeably absent.

    Nice try though.....:fishing:
     
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    In the early centuries, Christmas was originally celebrated on January 6, along with the Feast of the Epiphany. After Christmas started to be celebrated with its own day and feast on December 25, the octave or eighth day of Christmas took on a new meaning. Celebrating the feast of the Mother of God, Mary, on January 1, became a common tradition in the East and most of the West. As this holiday was never officially established by the Church in the universal calendar, celebrating the Feast of the Circumcision of Jesus Christ took the place of the Solemnity of Mary on January 1.

    When the Novus Ordo was introduced, the liturgical calendar was revised, and the Feast of the Circumcision was sidelined in favor of reviving the ancient practice of the Solemnity of Mary. Thus, January 1 was once again dedicated to the Mother of God, and this time as a universally celebrated feast.

    The Church has deemed the Solemnity of Mary a holy day of obligation. This day reminds Christians of the role she played as a Blessed Virgin, which eventually led to their salvation. After all, the birth of Christ wouldn’t have been possible without Mary.

    In a nutshell....thats how I see it.
     
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    That’s interesting. I didn’t know that.

    It doesn’t help me to understand how the Catholic Church reconciles marketing Mary as an intercessor with the assertion of Acts 4 which says that other than Jesus there is no other name under heaven by which a person can be saved.
     
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    I would agree with you that you comment was not an argument from authority logical fallacy. Rather you presented no argument at all and just dodged DRI's question. If you do not want to discuss issues with people that are not Catholics, why come here?
     
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    Yes, she is the Himmelskönigin, as we say in German.
     
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    Show or tell me why it should be argumentative? The OP has a mind with predetermined outcomes....further discussion with him would be fruitless on my part. I dare to say the same would probably be true with you. I posted what I did to inform, if people chose to disavow the information....that is of their affair.
     
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    I agree....Jesus was born, taught and suffered his passion for man kinds well being. Do you understand what and how Mary can interceded for people? Obvious you do not, otherwise you would not have responded the way you chose too.
     
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    There are many feast days for Mary!
     
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    Mary would not have been born were it not for God the Father. Nor would she have conceived and given birth to the savior were it not for God the Father. Nothing would exist without him. While she is remarkable, one doesn't marvel at the faucet for bringing the water. It seems neanderthalic and superstitious to do so. If one is reborn according to Jesus's doctrine, does one then marvel at ones own self when it is the work of God to whom is owed the just praise and honor for ones salvation. Mary would not lay claim to that distinction, but would revolt at the blasphemy, imo.
     
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    Jesus.

    Only one mediator.
    Not fond of the wording , , , but that's one I think we can agree on.
    Roman Imperial Church mythology added long after the deaths of the Apostles. It's more of a late 4th and early 5th century creation - fleshed out as time went on.
    But is it?

    Salvation for "Catholics" does not occur outside the church of the Pope. I don't plan on using your slur against those who follow Jesus of "Catholic". "Catholic" is a rather clever slur which makes the claim that anyone who is not a part is damned. So, a more appropriate and accurate term is Papist - those who follow the Pope.
    So, he wasn't human . . . what did John say about those who denied Jesus's humanity . . .
    Only in the latest RIC Newspeak Greek Dictionary.
    Except he is never mentioned as a brother, destroying your argument.
    A mid-20th Century invention.
    Do you think God is just gonna throw lovers of Jesus to the wayside?
     
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    Can you tell me why your God/god created people, then decided to add a clay baby inside a female that is said to have never had sex (your reference "original sin"), tells his clay people to go forth and multiply while calling the thing they have to do to "multiply" as sin?
    Well, a resounding "yes". Of course He/he would throw her by the wayside.
     
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    If you have not read the book or seen the movie "Heaven is for Real" little three year and ten month old near death experiencer Colton Burpo met both John the Baptist the cousin of Jesus as well as his mom during his brush with death.

    The topic of his meeting his older miscarried sister is relevant to Roman Catholics as well....

     
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