Some have suggested that President Trump's criticism to the four members of "The Squad"--i.e. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY); Ayanna Pressley (D-MA); Ilhan Omar (D-MN); and Rashida Tlaib (D-MN)--is inherently racist , since these are all "women of color." But sometimes it is possible to confuse causation with mere correlation. Or--even when causation actually exists--to misunderstand the direction in which it runs. (In other words, does X actually cause Y? Or does Y cause X?) It may, indeed, be no coincidence that these are all "women of color." But is it not possible that they have simply refused to assimilate into the dominant culture? That they have, instead, embraced the "fruit salad" metaphor that is the basis for multiculturalism? Note: I do think that President Trump could have been a bit less strident in his criticism of them. But that is really not the topic here. And I am hoping that we can all stay on topic.
link that to his history... Challenge Obama's birth comments of refugees from "Mexico" Calling Judge Curial biased because he was Mexican Talking about "shithole countries" His stance during the Central jogger case Sever suits on housing discrimination when attempting to not rent to minorities his initial "Muslim ban" calling black NFL protesters "son of a bitch" his comments after Charlottesville Talking about hurricane aid to Puerto Rico "they want everything done for them" accusing New Jersey "arabs" of cheering 9/11 I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he doubled and tripled down on these congresswomen. No more...if it walks like a duck...
I don't see how the tweet about "the Squad" was racist. However, anyone is welcome to change my mind.
Correct. As one of his most admired people said: "You can put lipstick on a pig and you still have a pig".
What "criticism"? Your premise is absolutely wrong. There was no "criticism" He just assumed they were from another country because they were women of color. That is pure unadulterated racism. You got the whole episode wrong. Therefore the rest of your post becomes meaningless. Scratch my last statement. Your post is not "meaningless". It's just more racism of the same kind. Otherwise why would you expect them to assimilate "into" anything? They are American citizens. And congresswomen. First of all, you can't get any more "assimilated" than becoming a congresswoman. But the sole notion that American citizens are required to assimilate "into" something or they must be "thrown out" or "invited to leave" (however you want to put it) by the President of the United States, is quite a... statement.
Assimilation doesn't mean they have to believe what you do. It does mean following the outline of the Constitution including: freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, the right to vote, the right to hold elected office if they meet qualifications, and equal protection under the law. Those who are not willing to recognize and allow those rights to citizens are truly the ones who have not assimilated even if they have been here for generations.
The Catholic Church is known for bringing kids here and fitting them with birth certificates. I know of a pair of twins, born in Russia, whose BC's were signed by a doctor in the US. Obama wouldn't have had his records sealed if he had nothing to hide. Anyway, Kenyan is not a race. Mexico is not a race. There are, however, many people entering the country illegally who are rapists, murderers and thieves. Kate Steinle died at the hands of one. You hate the Steinle's because they were victimized by one of your chosen victims. Mexican is not a race. Concern that a judge from a country where many resent America cannot be objective is not a sign of racism. It's demonstrates an anti-bias bias. Bias is not a race. A reference to 3rd world countries in the context of not wanting to encourage people who will never assimilate into the US and are only being encouraged to settle here so Democrats can tell them who to vote for to get free stuff is not a sign of racism. It's a statement to Democrats that destroying the country is not justified by their obtaining some votes from their needy victims. But the settlement remains a decision that Trisha Meili -- the jogger in that horrific attack -- says the city should not have made. And the police and prosecutors involved in the case agree. https://abcnews.go.com/US/case-settled-1989-central-park-jogger-believes-person/story?id=63077131 Really? Apparently, you don't know the circumstances surrounding Trump's desire to maintain his properties. There was no Muslim ban, just Democrat deception. Somehow, when Obama ended Visa Waivers for those same countries, it wasn't considered racist. Interesting slight of hand. Because they were black or because they disrespected the flag, the country and the people who gave their lives to give us the liberty we enjoy? When ISIS destroyed Christian artifacts, history, many good people were aghast. When a radical leftist mayor decided to destroy historical statues, there were history buffs who were in Charlottesville to express their disagreement with the notion that destroying evidence of mistakes will prevent them from recurring. One, a university student whose major was American history was targeted by haters for showing up to protest tearing down the statue. Not all were Robert Byrd KKK types. If there was a stretch, it was implying that there were good people on the Antifa side. I did my under graduate and graduate work at UVA. There was no reason for anyone to ever go downtown except to protest the handiwork of a radical mayor who wanted to put his bias on display and, in the case of Antifa, to start a fight. He was right. Raising the minimum wage caused alot of trouble for US territories of all varieties without the productivity to withstand it. Able bodied men moved to the mainland to find work. FEMA is not set up for turnkey recovery. They are set up to support local agencies ,,,, that Democrats decimated. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153977936617689 No you weren't. You spent too much time spinning a pile of excrement to convince anyone that you are anything but a slobbering hater.
For argument's sake I could agree Trump is a racist -- maybe all his friends are white, maybe all his wives were white, maybe he lives in a white neighborhood, maybe he only dines with whites, but he is not a proven racist in his actions as president. Maybe some of his comments are borderline racist -- so were some comments by Obama. However Trump's policies are helping all people and also helping the USA. That is what's important. But we are a country of nitpickers when it comes to Trump -- and the media leads the way. Sad that we don't focus on important issues.
Whether it’s racist or not is a matter of debate. Everyone has their own view as to what it means. One mans argument that states it’s racist is another mans argument that it’s abhorrent.
Obama's birth was prima facie challengeable Since there are thousands of refugees coming through Mexico, what is the problem with commenting? He didn't accuse the Judge of bias because the judge was Mexican but because the judge was biased. There are shithole countries. Something wrong with talking about them??? Most large landlords were sued for red-lining as the initial efforts of Democrats that eventually led to the 2008 financial crises. Trump never banned Muslims from anything. He referred to NFL protestors as SOBs whether black, white, brown, yellow, or purple. His comments about Charlottesville were accurate and unbiased. The government of Puerto Rico did want everything done for them since they could not do it themselves. Many NJ "arabs" did cheer 9/11. You should get real things to complain about.
I will agree with you that his comment about Judge Curiel was poorly considered. And I have said so, previously (whether on this forum or another, I cannot remember). Most of the other points on your list, however, appear to me to be...well, not really relevant. To take just some of these: The reference to some countries as "shithole" countries--whereas surely indelicate (especially for the president)--was accurate enough. And the fact that these countries just happen to be populated, largely, by non-whites, does not demonstrate that this was the animating factor in his mentioning these countries. Even if one is certain that Barack Obama was born in this country, it is very difficult, I believe, to prove that any theory to the contrary must be rooted in racism. I would not prefer an expletive to describe those NFL players who wished to kneel--rather than to show the usual reverence for the chief symbol of our country--but it is fair, at least, to describe them as being anti-American. President Trump's comments as concerning the Charlottesville incident, in 2017, have been widely distorted by most of the media. He never--no, never!--said that there were "good" people among the Nazis. If anyone can show otherwise, then please do so.
I am not trying to convince you or anyone else; you are probably capable of making that decision yourself. I am talking about what I now believe and how I came to believe that. I am sure many loyal supporters of President Trump believe differently, but those are not the people that the President needs to convince.
I did not realize Puerto Ricans were people of color. I had a Puerto Rican sergeant who worked for me in the Air Force. He is just as white as me.
Know what you mean: Rasmussen July 12, 2019 Approval: 46% July 15, 2019 Approval: 46% July 16, 2019 Approval: 48% July 17, 2019 Approval: 50% Trump ID'd the Democratic Party as being run by the Squad --------------- and people believed ---- as planned A thing of beauty.
Indeed. No one can convince another of something they don't want to believe or refuse to believe. And they have every bit as much right to that as we all do. But you are very right - Trump is building a portfolio of comments and behaviors, going back decades, which have shown MANY people that he has racist tendencies. And whether it is argued that they are misconstrued or misrepresented, the voters will decide. He has his base, unquestionably. But what about the rest? He's not doing himself any favors.
The Democrats are doing him a favor. He got them to circle the wagons around the most radical socialist thugs. Democrats generally hide their radicalism. Trump brought them out. A thing of beauty.
The election is over, stop calling Hillary a pig. It may be accurate and dead spot on but not necessary.
4 is pretty good, given than Republicans have a tendency of violating their own principles thinking that the Democrats of the media would like them if they betrayed themselves. Crazies to the left, wimps to the right. The media is just figuring out they were played by a guy they look down their noses at. A thing of beauty.
I think it exceedingly "insensitive" for a white person to tell non-whites to "go back to the country they came from" in this day-and-age of racist attacks by anyone from white supremacist thugs to police. It assumes the person is not from the US but is a recent immigrant, and that assumption can only have one apparent cause: racist assumptions. And worse yet, we're talking about a president with such gross insensitivity and racist assumptions!
I strongly suspect we are also dealing with an issue of denial stemming from a recognition of guilt and inability/refusal to face one's own racist views.
The tweet is racist because the implication is that if you are not white, you aren't from nor do you belong in the US. For example, if you told Trump to go back to where he came from, what location pops to mind? Now, do the same thing with any of the four Trump referenced. Remember, all 4 are US citizens, three by birth and one by following the legal naturalization process. They are no less American than Trump. Has Trump ever invited white people who disagreed with him or criticized him to go back to the countries they came from? If so, that would be evidence to your point. But I can't recall nor can google. So I'm pretty confident if these were four white women criticizing him or fighting with Pelosi over him, he wouldn't not have said they should go back home.
Since President Trump didnt specifically name the squad in his tweet, they outted themselves as the one that hates the US, Israel, the Constitution, and conservatives.
