The status of men in SJW society.

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  1. Mr_Truth

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    Feminists I've known are the first ones to acknowledge that men can be victims of domestic violence as well. If you find that any feminist denies that, just tell them that these men have mothers. Thus, when a man is victimized, so is his mother, daughter, and other female relatives.
     
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    The link says, right out of the gate, that the term SJW was invented in the late 20th century (later specified as the 1990s). This absolutely refutes your claim that it originated in 1820.

    While the left calls those who disagree with them "fascists", radical far right, pigs, hate groups, and racist sexist homophobic transphobic misogynistic bigots. Pot, meet kettle.

    That describes the "Social Justice" ideology perfectly.

    The Bible says "justice". Social Justice ideology is not "justice". You're just equivocating and conflating. SocJus is not based on love, but on guilt, shame, envy, and revenge. I told you, the term social "justice" is Orwellian in its usage. What you did was like coming in here saying that Orwell's Ministry of Truth was a good wholesome thing just because the Bible spoke highly of ACTUAL truth.
     
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    Unfortunately you don't understand the subject.

    Read the Bible and it talks about fighting the good fight. The chief thing being the quest for justice as I posted earlier. The reference in the link shows how the fight for "social justice" began in the 1820s. "Peaceniks" came into vogue later on as did SJWs. Interesting how all those who seek it are disdained by the power elite who hate the poor and want to trample on them in contrast to the Bible's teaching.

    As for pot calling kettle black, nobody does that more than the far right.

    Justice is not Orwellian, it is biblical. Read the book and see for yourself. And, as it says, it is those who hate the God of the Bible who oppose justice for the poor and downtrodden. The Pharisees who call themselves Christian but who are full of hate will face Hell on Judgment Day for their hate. And there will be more from the far right than anyone else.
     
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    No, you don't understand. They are not the same people. They do not have the same goals. They are not seeking justice, they just like to hide behind the word because it sounds good and fools people (often providing enough cognitive dissonance to even fool themselves). "Social justice" is just camouflage for a power grab, a way to pretend like you're morally superior while you become more and more tyrannical.

    Well then, since SocJus enjoys the support of most major corporations, that should tell you that they aren't the same as the other people you talked about.

    So your standards are no higher than the far right? Because moderates and centrists have higher standards. This just proves, once again, how similar SJWs are to the far right (they are both fringe extremists who want to dehumanize you)

    Justice is not Orwellian. Social Justice ideology is Orwellian, and the bible wasn't talking about that, because it didn't exist at the time. No matter how many times you try, you aren't going to slip that conflation past me.


    P.S. I'm agnostic, so attempts to manipulate me with the Bible are futile.
     
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    I am almost a Pharisee -- I am a Conservodox Jew. Thus, my timeline of posting excludes every Sabbath. An Orthodox Jew would have abstained from Social Media altogether.

    I guess I agree with Liberals on some issues -- gun control and helping poor and disabled people. I myself have Autism and Depression. But I am 100% against those who view men as Privileged Oppressors.
     
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    Precisely my point: the actual law means nothing if those enforcing said law ignore it!
     
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    Of course they are not the same people - there are several hundred years in between them. But the quest for justice remains the same. As always they faced hatred from the powers that be. The hatred you right wingers impose is no different from that they faced in the past.

    Social justice is not Orwellian. It is something professing Christians (and most righties fit within this description) should be the first ones to fight for it. But being Pharisees like they are, they won't. No surprise that when confronted with something like that so many disavow any claims to Christianity.

    As for standards, they only ones they have are those they can impose on all else. But when confronted with their hypocrisy, they cry and whine and soil their underpants. We see that every day on this forum. And their support for the likes of far right characters such as Trump, Bush, Reagan, Fox, and all other radical far right power grabbers proves they are the extremists who are power hungry and hate the values cherished by true Americans.
     
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    SJWs are not on that quest, no matter how much you insist that they are.

    And once again (please try to pay attention this time), the powers that be, whether in the corporate world, academia, the media, or finance, are all on board with SocJus, proving that it is not a movement legitimately seeking justice, by your own standard.

    I would dispute the term "right winger" (I'm actually a centrist), but as I see you are calling Trump and Reagan "radical far right" (a laughable notion), I can see that your perception is so skewed that you consider everyone to be on the right who isn't on the extreme left.

    Yes it is.

    Hahaha so now I'm not only right wing, but I'm a secret Christian too. You are pulling the well-known SJW trick of putting the same labels on everyone who disagrees with you, and you just don't know how to argue against those who don't fit your preconceived notion of the opponent you wanted .

    They they they they they...never look at ourselves...it's always them them them them. What you are doing is the common SJW tactic of deflection. Just keep talking about "far right Nazis" and completely ignore the misdeeds coming from your supported groups.
     
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    That topic doesn’t even make sense. I never heard of a college entrance exam like that
     
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    Where are men discriminated against?
     
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    Justice (they got heavier sentences for same crimes), school (they got worse grades as shown by a british survey), mental health issues (suicide rate).
     
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    Yes, I think I heard of it. They handed in the exact same paper and the one handed in with a girl's name got a higher grade than the one with a boy's name. Or something like that.

    Thinking back to my own days in school, I have many similar experiences of female teachers favourising female students. The best example is of a girl who was once caught cheating upon which she started to cry which led to her getting the grade that the cheating gave her. :laughing:
     
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    Obviously you did not read the Bible
     
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    Wait are you blaming males forgetting worse grades? Girls do better in school perhaps because they work harder....they take the same exams and blaming women because more men kill themselves? You’re too funny
     
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    LOL I was involved in these studies and you have it backwards. Males were given higher grades than females . It also showed girls were held to a higher standard. An example was when a girl cursed , it was seen worse than a boy cursing. I guess you never heard of, “boys will be boys” and leave it to you to give an example of a girl who got away with something as the norm. And of course there’s another side to the story Another part of the study , it showed that boys got chosen over girls when they raised their hands. It was an eye-opener for me because I realized I did that as well.
    Girls are doing better on SATs and that is strictly a test. But now boys have to compete when they didn’t in the past...and it’s pissing them off, whining that girls have advantages.
     
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    Tell that to patty Hearst and Martha Stewart. Men in those situations would never be in jail. We see that all the time.
     
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    I don't blame women for that, I just says that if women get as high suicide rate, the public institutions would invest more money to prevent that. Since it's mostly men which commit suicide, it's less an issue.
    About school, no there were a study on math tests in UK showing that on average female teacher were biased against male students.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/education-31751672
    It's not a personnal institution, it's an established fact that female staff has a heavy bias against young boys.
    So yes, boys are failing in school, partly because they know unconsciously that this insitution is hostile to them.

    Wrong. Men get in average 50 % longer prison sentence for the same crime, are less likely to get disculpated and so on. What do you think on the topic isn't relevant, it's the hard facts, and the facts are very clear on that issue.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742
     
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    What school is that?
     
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    I have actually. But feel free to cite the chapter and verse where the bible mentions Social Justice ideology.
     
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    You really think that if more women tried to commit suicide they would invest more money? I guess you don’t realize that for hundreds of years all the studies were only about men. Men’s heart attacks, men’s cancers etc. Women do commit suicide so why aren’t there more studies? There are plenty studies about men’s suicides.
    I was personally involved in a study about male and female students.. The textbooks have been changed because the boys had all the strong roles and the girls usually were passive.and we can always find studies to support what we believe. People have shown me studies to prove that smoking is not harmful. Boys are not failing in school, girls are just succeeding and now the boys have to share of the pieI Are you saying that it is just a new phenomenon that teachers favor girls?
    If men are getting a shorter sentence for the same crime then why don’t you do something about it? If you think something is unfair, don’t just sit and whine, do what women do… Make changes
     
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    Well that settles it.
     
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    LOL.
     
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    Yeah California felt the same way, so they let a guy out that just ran around stabbing 4 or 5 people to death.

    The left: "Der wez should lets them out we haz too manyz"

    Also the left: "Omgzor whys so many crimez now?"
     
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    Way to answer the question, sparky.
     
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    see post 128
     

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