The Suffragette movement was Racist.

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  1. Esau

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    oh boo freakin hoo

    let me go get my fiddle
     
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    This guy's head will explode if whites don't invite black people everywhere and have the audacity to have something of their own.
     
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    Isn’t the assumption that the word “slave” automatically refers to black slaves racist?
     
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    I love those people revolting against things that happened 80 or 140 years ago but will never change their way of life to change a nowodays injustice.
     
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    No, considering there were no white slaves in america. is it the usual ignorance of the liberal left or a more sinister indoctrination of white folk?
     
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    im white and cannot be racist against whites, find another stick and come again, snowflake.
     
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    Good thing those Suffragette Beckys didn't have cell phones back in the day or they would be too busy calling the police on black people to organize the right to vote.
     
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    There will still be people under effective slavery today in America, of all colours and backgrounds. Certainly throughout history around the world, slavery has been a sad constant, again with victims of all colours and backgrounds. There is no time or place limitation on the use of the word in this generic slogan, either when it was first coined or as it is being used today, and so no justification to object to it as if the word is exclusively owned by the black slaves of colonial North America.
     
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    considering there were no white slaves in america its kinda obvious these white american women were referring to so- called blacks. like they even know about any other kind of slavery ever, youre giving these women way too much credit.

    dont even know where youre going with this, do you have a point or something you want to raise?
     
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    You’re in no position to question their knowledge when you assert that there were never any white slaves in America (and no, I’m not referring to indentured servants).

    I was challenging the implication that nobody should ever be permitted to use the word “slavery” unless they’re referring to black Africans during the colonial period in North America. Given that there are slaves all over the world today, it is a misleading and dangerous attitude to hold. The African slavery in America (and Europe) was a horrific crime and should never be forgotten but it isn’t the be-all and end-all.
     
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    there were no white slaves in america. however u want to twist it, we can only be talking about one group of ppl. i dont see any africans on this board, do you?
     
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    why reply then, for attention off me? im but a simple man.
     
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    Show other people what to say to your nonsense.
     
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    So nobody is allowed to talk about current issues like sex slavery, domestic slavery or forced marriage unless the victims are black Africans in America? And nobody is permitted to use the word “slavery” by its general definition at all? Every single use of the word must have direct relevance to black slaves in colonial America?
     
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    talking about slavery on an american forum means Chattel Slavery. if you want to talk about sex slavery or domestic slavery then go join an eastern european forum or saudi forum respectively and quit being pedantic.
     
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    so you are posing for others then, like a peacock
     
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    No I believe what I said.
     
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    Well first; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking_in_the_United_States

    Secondly, while we're talking on an American forum, we're talking about international marketing for a film based on a quote from a British suffragette. It's their context which is relevant to the discussion, not yours or mine. It's the false assumption of context that triggered much of the controversy in the first place.
     
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    Well on that note, the same applies as we dont have sex slavery or domestic slavery epidemics in the uk either, its very much like america, we had thousands of slaves from west africa. our entire empire was built precisely off the back of slave profits and if it wasnt for the uk slavers we may not even have seen the birth of modern day capitalism, as slavery formed the nucleus of the industrial revolution in a small west midlands village, whose exploits in the slave so- called trade enabled them to garner enough profit to expand and create the first ever blast furnace for affordable energy.
     
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    That’s all true but it still isn’t relevant to the definition of the word slavery and the fact it extends beyond historical African slavery. It doesn’t seem to be a context you initially considered and I very much doubt it was a context the objectors were even aware of.

    This still falls back to the objectors essentially declaring that nobody is permitted to use the word “slavery” anywhere in the world, in any context, even in a direct quote, unless they’re specifically referring to historical Black African slavery and are doing in a manner those objectors deem acceptable. That is just ridiculous.
     
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    it is what it is, its not like anything will change any time soon. just like the holocaust is only remembered as a white european jewish catastrophe and not the black holocaust (scramble for africa). its just a title at the end of the day, if you want to know the truth youll find it.
     
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    Admitting you have a problem is the first step in changing it. :cool:
     
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    what is my problem?
     

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