The Taliban have WON in Afghanistan... (really?)

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if they produce child porn, yes, they should go to prison too

    we have a President that sued his porn star for talking about it.. Sad!
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Probably.

    "Revenge for atrocities". Let's see what Americans do when 26 million have lost their lives and they have reasons of atrocities to revenge.
     
  3. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, I guess he had a hankering for stars and didn't want his wife to know about it.:chainsaw:
     
  4. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please, clarify a bit more, I don't get it.
     
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    Jess Curios wrote:
    I interpret his response is to demonstrate that the Americans were less barbaric than the Soviets and I merely pointed out that if the U.S. had been invaded and the Americans had suffered the same sort of atrocities as the Soviets had endured it is very likely the Americans would have been just as outraged, and medievally revengeful. You know ..... it's all relative.

    By the way, I am a Vietnam War Veteran and although I am as civilized as a saint some of my brothers-in-arms were not. If I told you some the worse atrocities I saw you'd be sick for a month and not be able to sleep for a year or two. Take a walk in my shoes, sister.
     
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  6. Jazz

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  7. Thingamabob

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    Jesus! That much?
     
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  9. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish I could! By the way, I am a WWII veteran and have read and heard some awful things... things, my brother said he could not talk about!
    Because Germany lost the war, the German soldiers get accused of cruelty and having killed civilians. Has anybody ever asked what was done to them by the partisans?
    Read here, brother!:

    http://www.cwporter.com/partisanen.htm
     
  10. Jazz

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    Why ask me? You can google as good as I can.
     
  11. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, it seems out of this world! But, it must be worth it for the American elite in Government and business.
     
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    Since you can google, what was the answer you found? Wondering if you're too afraid to post the answer.
     
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  13. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why should I be afraid? I have no family involved on either side.
     
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    So you're just refusing to answer the question that you claimed is so easy to answer?
     
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    Strategic access, open markets in Afghanistan together with access to the resources, protection of the corporation running the show currently there is the reason for the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan.
    I believe the most circulated and taken for fact reasons are propaganda. I feel no pity for the foreign soldiers dead there, those fools.
    I know some soldiers going there, big money to be earned, mercenaries with a flag on the uniform, giving sweets to children to perceive the occupiers as cool while killing the fathers for resisting the occupation.
    Nothing less honorable than doing the bidding of Big Money interests.
     
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    In that case, there is nothing new I can tell you. One thing for sure, you were the good guys, we were not .... oder?
    Yes, it's true.
    No, I don't think so. Worse (in my opinion) is that no one has ever asked the Irakis or apologized to them while Germany has done everything possible to make some amends for what Das Dritte Reich had done.
    I'm going to bed in a few minutes. I'll read it in the morning. Thank you.
     
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    Trump was just trying to spread his Christian love
     
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  18. Jazz

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    Aren't the Americans the enemies of the Afghans? Hence your question makes no sense!
     
  19. ArmySoldier

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    Odd way to deflect from the question. How many of the Americans have died there and how many of the Afghan militants we are fighting died?

    Please let me know if the question is still too difficult for you to comprehend.
     
  20. Jazz

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    Correct, YOU were the bad guys, because you bomb our cities and killed endless numbers of civilians. You also deliberately killed your German POW along the Rheinwiesen AFTER the war!!! Big atrocity on your part! BUT... the ordinary individual American soldiers was decent and likeable, I believe. I had no dealings with them as I was living in the British Zone. The Brits treated us with respect and politeness IF they weren't drunk or on a looting spree.
    The difference between your country and Germany is that you have been the winners of every war so far. Naturally, it would be beneath you to apologize to any of your victims. You are on a high and believe you are justified destroying one country after another, and those which you are not destroying, you bully them!
    In Fairness and to your credit I like to point out the apology from a Mr. Merrit Drucker, who took it upon himself and apologized for the Rheinwiesen massaker of at least 1.7 million German POW.

    A video in English of ret. Major Merrit Drucker:


    https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/...ming-out-in-a-new-edition-aimed-at-americans/
    Still asleep???
     
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    I am not American. I am from Sweden. We didn't bomb your cities. I also lived in post-war Germany. West Berlin and Freiburg i. breisgau.
     
  22. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Geez... I should have checked your profile!!! Dumb bell :rolleyes:
    O.k., I am very glad you are from Sweden, my second Heimat. :grin: I spent almost three years there before I went to Canada.
    Never been to Berlin nor Freiburg; my home is in the North near Kiel. But what were you doing in Germany?
     
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    I was working as a draughtsman in Freiburg in 1975 and then I worked for the RAF at Gatow Flugplatz in W. Berlin in 1978-79. You say ”near” Kiel? I was there a few months ago. There isn't very much left of it but Eckenförde looks very nice. And where in Sweden did you live? A long time ago perhaps?
     
  24. Jazz

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    Yes, please, be more specific as to who is "we"?
     
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    A pertinent question as I found out yestderday when I wrongly assumed you were American. Yes, there are many nationalities in Afghanistan, even Sweden.
     
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