The Trump Search Warrant

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  1. Condor060

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    So you live in information blackout and your opinions are based of amusing stories.
    Well, that explains it
     
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    Not really, cause it would be declassified. Hence no raid.
     
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    Amusing stories!....Well yes they are.
    They are quite amusing, and amazing stories from Trump supporters.
     
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    But even if Mr. Trump declassified the information before he left office, none of the three potential crimes cited by the department in seeking the warrant depend on whether a mishandled document has been deemed classified.

    The warrant said the agents would be searching for material as they investigated potential violations of the Espionage Act, which outlaws the unauthorized retention of defense-related information that could harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary — a standard that was written by Congress before the creation of the modern classification system.

    It also cited a federal law that makes it a crime to destroy or conceal a document to obstruct a government investigation, and another statute that bars the unlawful taking or destruction of government records or documents.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/12/...1294&user_id=fecdfdffdaaa11107b72f0f4f6e429cc

    Next.
     
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    My pleasure. :)
    Trump claims 'standing order' declassified records as soon as they left Oval Office | Washington Examiner
     
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    Im not making claims.

    Im correcting misinformation you can’t seem stop posting.

    I will continue to do it. I’m not posting it for you, so I couldn’t care less if you read it.
     
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    So you use the word anecdote but you don't know what the word means.
    More confirmation of what I posted.

    But you prefer these deflections because you can't quote my post and dispute anything I stated with facts.
    Its all you do. If you actually believed the propaganda you regurgitate, you could dispute my statements line by line.
    But you can't so its on to yet another deflection
    But I do appreciate the confirmation
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    The anecdote part is my own research of spectacular claims.
     
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    National Archives rejects Trump's claim that Obama took classified documents

    The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration on Friday rejected former President Donald Trump's claims that former President Barack Obama took classified documents from the White House.
    https://www.axios.com/2022/08/12/na...trumps-claims-obama-took-classified-documents

    But............"I'm innocent, Obama did it too, it's someone else's fault, I de-classified everything, Garland is a Nazi, I'm being treated unfairly, Hillary!, I'm still the prez, I've been framed, that stuff is mine, don't you know who I am?"
     
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    You going to dispute what I posted or confirm you can't all day
     
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    Trump has like 10 mutually exclusive defense theories being crowdsourced on the internet right now.

    It’s pathetic to watch his sheep go out and try to be his online lawyer.
     
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    Sure, lets start with this 20,000 criminal claims..we are derailing at this point, but im sure you will bring it up again, id just like to see the source for this.
    If you are using the formula i think you are, then Trump isn't the martyr you claim he is. That would be Hillary, who i despise.

    For the record, Clinton lost my support with his failed predatory Haitian initiative.
     
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    Unfortunately, there seems to be a pattern of this on the thread.
    :popcorn:
     
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    Link for your quote or shall I dismiss it as hyperbole?
     
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    Political opinions are for just that.
     
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    Over and over and over
     
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    Suggestion: you will achieve credibility if you at least TRY to supply supportive information, as @Eleuthera suggested earlier in this thread.

    As it is, you think it is sufficient to condemn people without any reason, proof, links, or anything else of substance. You can go to any of the downtown city parks in Denver and watch the dopers, drunks, and pitiable crazy people who loiter there do exactly these same thing... with their loud mouths wide open....
     
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    Thanks for the advice.

    We’re not talking about complicated stuff here.

    It’s not worth trying to change the mind of the person I’m responding to because they don’t care about reality.
     
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    The Journal reviewed a three-page list of items that FBI agents took from the Palm Beach, Fla., property on Monday, revealing that they took about 20 boxes of items, binders of photos, a handwritten note and Trump’s grant of clemency to his former adviser Roger Stone, who was convicted in 2019 of lying to Congress, witness tampering and obstruction of an official proceeding.

    The list refers to one set of documents as “Various classified/TS/CSI documents,” meaning top secret/sensitive compartmentalized information. It states that FBI agents acquired four sets of top-secret documents, three sets of secret documents and three sets of confidential documents.

    The FBI reportedly sought documents containing information about nuclear weapons in the search, but it is unclear if the agency recovered any. The Journal reported that the list did not contain any additional details about what information was in the classified documents.
    https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-recovered-11-sets-classified-180727764.html

    ...
    What was the purpose of stealing classified documents?
     
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    They were not classified.
     
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    So you don't want to discuss the actual information governing whats going on in this country. Out of all the information I provided you, you felt the number of accusations against Trump that have been unanswered by indictments was the most important?
    Thats telling in itself.

    How many criminal claims have been made in just this one thread in the last 24 hours? 30, 40?
    How about 4 years of 24/7 97% hate media against Trump? How many times a day were they making criminal accusations? 10, 20?
    How about the never ending Trump Threads for the last 7 years here?
    And you think 20K is unreasonable?

    After 35 years of the left fawning over Trump and honoring him with awards, movie scenes, his own Hollywood Star on the walk of fame, the MOMENT he came down the escalator, OVERNIGHT, he became a racist, homophobic, Islamophobic, pedophile, Nazi, white supremacist, tax cheat, child abuser, extortionist, treasonous, embezzler, Russian agent, womanizer, money launderer, murderer, bank fraud, wire fraud, (and every other fraud claim you can think of) backed up with 2197 solid days, of EVERY leftist media broadcaster, with Trump accusations EVERY DAY, 24/7 with thousands upon thousands of fake media anonymous insider stories, from colluding with Russia, IRS fraud, tax fraud, money laundering, Russian Oligarch support, computers tied to Russian banks, underground foreign corruption, pee tapes, Melania hooker claims, obstruction claims, paying off criminal claims, Russia backed loan claims, abuse of power claims, foreign gift claims, Emoluments clause claims, and you have the balls to even question 20,000?

    And in all of this 24/7 ransacking by every left wing media broadcaster with Trump accusations on air EVERY DAY, you couldn't come up with one single indictment?

    Making the point, that nobody believes the left anymore. You have run the gambit of criminal claims with voters and produced NOTHING.
    Why should anyone believe you now?
     
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    As a union guy, we disliked Trump before he even followed Hillary's claims with the birther BS. He was notorious for not paying contractors, and telling them so sue him to pay only a portion of what he bargained for. It was dubbed, you've been Trumped. He kept lawyers on payroll, and used them on a regular basis to keep lawsuits against him in litigation.

    Another example a coworker told me about was this movie.
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1943873/

    I know whats going on in this country and the rights qanon theory's are whats driving the teacher shortage...We are off topic at this point.

    I wanted a link to verify the validity of this 20,000 number you keep repeating. Its the most outrageous claim iv seen so far.

    Believe it or not, Obama got worse coverage from conservative outlets.
     
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    Oh, its outrageous huh. Was it outrageous when the left claimed Trump told over 35,000 lies while in office?
    That would amount to about 21 a day, 7 days a week, 24/7.
    Can you give us one day where you can link to 21 lies?

    He wasn't even speaking on the media 24/7, 7 days a week hour after hour.
    He wasn't posting on political websites 24/7, 7 days a week, hour after hour.
    But he could tell 35,000 lies with no problem from lefties and you guys sucked it up and regurgitated it without a single problem.

    But millions of lefties, dozens of leftist media broadcasters, billions of Trump post, thousands of talk radio host, and hundreds of political sites all running 24/7, 7 days a week making 20,000 criminal claims is just outrageous?

    The hypocrisy is a normal response.
     
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    ...I only find links that claim he told eight misleading truths, this link claims 5k...where did you read 35,000 lies from?
    Still haven't seen a link about the 20,000 criminal claims.
    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tell-truth-lies-1196677
     
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