THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. Esau

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    jfk was an antisemite, so was ghandi, desmond tutu, john lennon, MLK, macolm x, ali, you name it, all of the great men in history, anti semitic. hmm...if they are then its most likely we all are too.
     
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    You can add Elon musk to that list aswell.
     
  3. The Scotsman

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    ...bit like the Russian Kinzhal Hyper Sonic missile doohdah thingy that has the whole world quaking in its boots!! The Putin hyperbole machine has been telling the whole world for many many months now that the Kinzhal missile is a flying testament to the amazingly high level of military technology being carefully crafted and loving created in Babushka Ludomanka's voddynborscht lab....the only comparable military capability anywhere in the known universe being the planet melting death rays installed on Galactic Commander Tarka Dhal's spacecruisers of the mighty Vindaloovian Empire!! The problem for Putin and all the myth and mystique he's claimed for this faster than light planet shattering missile, unfortunately came crashing down in flames when Ukraine brought a whole flight of them.....well....crashing down in flames. Thus, that became a bit of a puzzler for the hyperbole machine as it wasn't supposed to happen...how can that happen when they are so fast...and so speedy and so....miserably Russian. So rather annoyingly it seems to have been pointed out to Putin that the Kinzhal is in fact pretty well useless up against anything that hasn't been build out of washing machine parts....so the moral being never let a good story get in the way of Putin's miraculous technological death machines.....or vice versa....hmmmm.

    Oh and guess what China nicked the designs for their hyper doohdad thing from Russia....ah bless....
     
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    Just low tech Russian junk that Russians lied about to pretend was somehow not trash. News flash, it is trash.

     
  5. Durandal

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    Should be fun if their T-14 junk ever meets Ukraine's western armor or anti-tank weapons. :) I expect more of the same from Olgino, i.e. claims that T-14 destroyed Ukraine's entire western tank fleet and a few Patriot batteries to boot :D
     
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    The T-14 is trash. The Chinese passed on buying any as did the Indians because nothing 1orkwd on it.
     
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    ....and a HIMARS and TWO Storm Shadows!!!!!!!! T-14 is invincible. Russia Stronk!!!
     
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    ..NATO reporting codename for this magnificent piece of aging junk is "Killjoy" which is rather unfortunate for Mr. Putin as hype now meets reality. Once again the old Russian trick of taking old bits of crap, re-wrapping them and calling them something dramatic..... coupled with the usual wild and jubilant claims of it being cutting edge and unstoppable are frankly laughable....anyway life goes on....in the meantime its reported the Russians are now re-designing their stockpile of catapults and scouring riverbeds for round pebbles which will be deployed with the next round of conscripts in order to counter the threat of Storm Shadow...
     
  9. Durandal

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    and...guess what....

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    link to upload_2023-5-18_18-26-15.png
     
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    Interesting. I guess they're looking to scapegoat their own scientists for the failure of the Kinzhals to avoid being shot down? I guess someone had to go under the avtobus :)
     
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    ...yeah...daft really though...I mean if you start lobbing your brainpower out the top floor windows it's hardly an incentive for the rest of them to innovate in case their projects don't work....which they probably won't...but hey...that pony pottered off the paddock a while back!!

    Thinking about it...a couple of years ago all the "experts" were humming and hawing over how far ahead the of the west these pesky Russians were getting, all these new super weapons turning up at eastern weapons expos...all stealthy and lethal looking with sinister names...but its' all fake....its all a con...its just marketing. The reality is that their tanks are crap their ships are crap their planes are crap and the people that command and control the whole thing are inept...they couldn't even defend their flagship against third rate decades old designed missile....and don't even get me started on their Su-57...again its wrapping...its porn for pilots, sexy looking bitch with all the right curves and lines...looks great but its a bit of a problem child....just can't fly. If you think about it, in terms of the value of kit the US has donated to the Ukrainians, its equivalent to what...roughly 5% of the defence budget...something like that? And for that they've destroyed 50% of the Russian land forces.

    Russia as a country is purely defined as a marketing exercise funded by a corrupt petrol station.
     
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    Oh the gullible, falling for the kyiv clown show propaganda as well as the MIC's.

    The patriot system has a radar range of about 100 miles, max. The Kinzhal hypersonic missile travels at approximately 120 miles/second. That leaves 8/10ths of a second for the Patriot to detect, engage, fire and intercept.....

    Human reaction time is 4/10ths of a second. If a patriot operator hit the fire button at 100 miles out, the patriot missile wouldn't leave the launch tube before it was hit.

    Enough of this nonsense.

    This sh***y system couldn't take down the Iranian cruise missiles that hit Saudi's refineries.
     
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    What makes you think that?
     
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    They'll just use any excuse to cheerlead for the invading dictator. Just do like me and laugh at the way Russia can't close the deal on an invasion that they told us would be over in days.
     
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    Is that what the Hindustan Times told you?
     
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    Former MI6 boss explains why NATO weapons will defeat Russia in Ukraine | Richard Dearlove
     
  18. Durandal

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    By the way, the speed of sound, for reference, is 1100 feet/second, or less than 1/4 mile/second. Asteroids travel through space at an average of just 12 miles/second.

    120 miles/second is an absolutely absurd speed for any missile, or indeed any object traveling through our atmosphere. Meteors that hit the atmosphere burn up at much lower speeds than that. Your claim is physically impossible.
     
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    This is what it comes to, whet bots don't use their heads at all. 120 miles per second! No brain involved writing this, for sure.
     
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    I wonder where is Destroyer of ilusions with his fairy tales about Russian hypersonic wunderwaffe? Already mobilized?
     
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    Hey Bill, haven't seen you in a while as you're on Ignore...ah well...anyway how's it going all good in the world?
    I noticed a little button on the side of the thread which allows one to read ignored content....which I noticed because of @Durandal response to some banal claims of fanciful speeds achieved by some mythical weapon developed by some race of technologically advance deathbots which thus led me to the notion it was probably you...and guess what...it was!! I think for those with difficulties comprehending the level of technical ability contained within the two systems here's a visual representation.....

    Firstly the patriot....

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    and here's the Kinzhal...

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    apt that if you can abreviate Del and Rodders' company to TIT Co as the Kinzhal may well have been to built and supplied to Russian by them.

    There you go lad....hopefully that wee visual demonstration highlights the gulf in technology between the two systems....which I'm sure even you can fathom?

    Anyway...I'll just click that "Ignore" button again....toodles
     
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    Dude. The Khinzal is a BALLISTIC TRAJECTORY without randomized course correction or countermeasures. Its not a ****ing cruise missile. It doesn't matter how fast it moves, the intercept point is known.
    Our detection systems allow us to fire countermeasures that at a certain time will occupy the same space as your wunderwaffe horseshit.
    Here's a nice diagram

    2a.howballisticsworks.png
     
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    Biden tells G7 allies the US will support joint F-16 training effort for Ukrainians
    By Natasha Bertrand, CNN
    Updated 11:16 AM EDT, Fri May 19, 2023

    President Joe Biden informed G7 leaders on Friday that the US will support a joint effort with allies and partners to train Ukrainian pilots on fourth generation aircraft, including F-16s, a senior administration official tells CNN.

    The training is not expected to happen in the US, the official said, and will likely happen entirely in Europe. But US personnel will participate in the training alongside allies and partners in Europe, the official said. It is expected to take several months to complete and the official said the hope is it will begin “in the coming weeks.”

    The decision marks a stark turnaround for Biden, who said earlier this year that he did not believe that Ukraine needed the F-16s. The decision to support the training initiative came together very quickly, officials said, and was made by Biden following meetings with G7 leaders in Hiroshima, Japan, where the topic of F-16s to Ukraine was a key point of discussion. UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has been pushing particularly hard in recent days for countries that have the jets in their stockpile to send them to Ukraine so that the country can better defend itself against Russia’s daily aerial attacks.

    ... https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/19/politics/biden-g7-f-16-ukraine/index.html

    Progress! :)
     
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    This is very interesting because the US Air Force thought Warthogs and helicopters were the priority. The F16 is vulnerable to Russian ground to air missiles. That said to train someone on an F16 properly (not the Russian way) can take 6 months to a year depending on what they flew before and how adaptable these pilots are. Its far more complex than learning to fly a Russian jet.

    Ok the decision appears to have been made. That's a long term commitment. That's a loud message to Russia the US means long term if it has to in assisting Ukraine. That sends an intimidating message to the Soviet air force already suffering huge pilot losses from bad training and I think that is what was intended by the message.

    This appears to be entrenching into a long term war of attrition. I just do not see an end to it unless Putin is removed and even if he is removed they put in someone just as bad or worse than him.

    I predict Putin is killed this year by his own people. I go with poisoning. I am also going out and saying his buddy Donny T is 70% likely to have a stroke or heart attack and die within the next two years.

    Have a wonderful day with my death predictions. PS I was dead wrong thinking they would never send F16's. I own up to my comments lol. Other than that I am never wrong. Ever.
     
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    Dude. You don't understand what "hypersonic" means. It means 7,500 MPH and less than a second to react at the limits of the patriot's radar detection. Math and psychics. Dude.
    D, maybe you ought to learn about the speeds on intercontinental nuclear missiles. They are faster than the Kinzhal. Possible and reality.

    Now you fellas can wake up to the bullshit claims that 'patriots' are taking down all these Kinzhals. :laughing:
     

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