The US President’s accusations against the Ukrainian President remain unproved for 6 years

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  1. Robert84

    Robert84 Active Member

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    In my opinion, situation with US support of coup d’état in Ukraine in 2014 very much resembles situation with US invasion of Iraq in 2003.

    Pretext for the US invasion of Iraq in 2003 were allegations that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. But after Iraq had been occupied by NATO forces, no such weapons were ever found.

    Pretext for the US government's support of the coup d’état in Ukraine in 2014 were allegations that there was massive corruption in Ukraine under the then president Viktor Yanukovitch. After the coup the US government imposed sanctions on Viktor Yanukovitch, then Barak Obama personally named him a corrupt ruler (see here).

    But like the situation with Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, no evidence of Yanukovitch’s corruption has been found until now, although after the coup the new pro-American Ukrainian governments have been looking for such evidence for 6 years.

    However, the new Ukrainian rulers nevertheless had to try to convict Yanukovitch in order to justify his unconstitutional removal from presidency. Fearing for his life, Yanukovitch had left Ukraine but he agreed to give evidence to prosecutors and before judges via video link from Russia.

    Since the Ukrainian government could not convict Yanukovitch of corruption, it tried to convict him for his letter sent to the Russian government after the coup (at the beginning of March 2014).

    In this letter, Yanukovitch wrote that an illegal seizure of power had taken place in Ukraine and there was a threat to life, rights and safety of people, therefore he requested the Russian government to use Russian military forces to restore law, peace, order and stability and to protect the Ukrainian people.

    Yanukovych was sentenced to 13 years of jail in absentia for this letter although reality had shown that there really was a threat to life and safety of Ukrainian people. For example, two months after this letter was written, 42 opponents of new Ukrainian rulers were burnt alive in Odessa.

    Like the situation with the Yanukovitch’s corruption, the new pro-American Ukrainian governments have been investigating the death of these 42 people for almost 6 years, but no one has been found guilty yet. The Ukrainian police prefers to investigate cruel treatment of animals and does not want to investigate Yanukovitch’s corruption or death of 42 people (see here).

    And the most important point
    In my opinion, American citizens bear responsibility for the US President’s allegations, which have been mentioned above, because these citizens had elected this President.

    https://holtpoliticalblog.blogspot.com/
     
  2. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We are so concerned about the corruption in nations that wont allow their resources to be plundered by a few elites. And we send in the jackals to get a pres of our choosing. There is something criminal and sketchy about this.

    We need to concern ourselves with our corrupt politicians.
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    All this time I thought Ukraine had an election and now I find out it was a coup.
    Learn something every day. :)
     
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  4. Robert84

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    That's what behind it all - your government and your media tell you only a part of truth.

    They told you that “Ukraine had an election” but they did not tell you what had been there before this election.

    After the legitimately elected and internationally recognized President of Ukraine had been unconstitutionally removed from presidency, new pro-American illegitimate rulers of Ukraine declared that they were going to prepare and to hold election.

    Thereafter violent clashes began between supporters and opponents of these illegitimate rulers.

    In the first post of this thread I have mentioned such clashes in Odessa where 42 opponents of the new pro-American illegitimate rulers had been burnt alive at the beginning of May 2014.

    And only after all that, on May 25, 2014 the new presidential election took place.

    Although this election had been organized by the illegitimate rulers and had been accompanied by massive and deadly violence, the USA and Western countries recognized the results of this election at once.
     
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  5. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    That is a DEAD Link.

    I get this:

    This site can’t be reached
    %20https’s server IP address could not be found.

    Just saying...:salute:
     
  6. Robert84

    Robert84 Active Member

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    I am sorry.
    When I inserted this link, it seemed to be OK.

    Now I have inserted it again, it must be OK for sure - https://holtpoliticalblog.blogspot.com/

    Please try :)
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    USA supported Ukrainian coup because it badly needs more military bases close to Russian border.The flight time of nukes get more short.
     
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    Thank you.

    I am reading it now.:flagus:
     
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    MissingMayor Well-Known Member

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    No evidence of corruption??? You mean besides the billions of the country's money he parked in bank accounts in other countries and the obvious billions he straight up embezzled? The guy was a career public servant who had a private zoo and 18 hole golf course on his estate.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Can you show proofs to your acquisitions?
    Not lies of MS presstitutes or warmongers like Trump, but true evidences and investigations
     
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    MissingMayor Well-Known Member

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    Are you denying the existence of wire transfers and investigations reported on by all sources?

    If you refuse to listen to all of the press, who in fact do you listen to? Random people on Reddit?
     
  12. Robert84

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    I can only repeat what has been written in the first post of this thread - after the coup the new pro-American Ukrainian governments have been looking for evidence of Yanukovitch' corruption for 6 years and they have not found ANYTHING.
     
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    MissingMayor Well-Known Member

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    The first post is strictly an opinion piece not based in fact. If that is the sum of your knowledge then you are willfully ignorant on the subject.
     

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