The worst Presidents

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  1. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about zero positives with Trump. He did manage for the most part to stay away from foreign war adventures. Therefore, I would rank GWB worse than Trump, because GWB lied to get us into a war that cost 1000s of American lives, 100,000s of Iraqi lives, and trillions of dollars, all that while cutting taxes at home, leading to the debt explosion in the late 2000s. While 1/6 and Trump's covid response were very bad, they pale in comparison to GWB's misdeeds.
     
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    How about we compromise and have them TIED for LAST place? ;)
     
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    Yeah almost anything would be better than biden
     
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    Certainly not Donald Judas tRump, though.
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's trying to work what on earth he's on about. I can only assume he's on drugs.

     
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    According to any objective, reasoned view.
     
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    "The worst Presidents"

    FDR
    LBJ
    Obama
    Biden
     
  9. Arctor

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    my views, as someone not American and in my lifetime.
    Bush, Trump, Biden.

    Bush I will never forgive for his lies and murder of countless people under the P.N.A.C plans
    Trump for his egotistical selfish acts and stealing money from un-educated people
    Biden because the man really should be in care with a warm hot chocolate and a comfy blanket

    I do pity the American folks, as most of the Western world do. you always seem to get dealt a bad hand
     
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    dgrichards Well-Known Member

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    I would be interested to know how a recitation of publicly available numbers could possibly be considered 'partisan' by an otherwise healthy mind. Could you elaborate as to how it is partisan? Or is this simply a case of 'the truth hurts' when applied to your side?
     
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    I will add that Abe Lincoln scores first place worst president.
    Reason for his.
    We still are fighting Democrats over this same issue.
    ABE by invading states created a war costing this nation over 630,000 deaths on both sides.
    People who are not angry over the FDR created wars are still angry over the alleged Civil war.
    He did the most damage in total.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know, I happen to be extremely objective and reasoned. Stick with me and learn a few things.
     
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    Nah! I learned, considered, and discarded most of the 'things' I could learn from you 50 or 60 years ago. And yet, I am always willing to be surprised, so, surprise me!
     
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    You're kidding. Abe Lincoln is by far the most respected US president of all time!
     
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    • W has been the worst in my lifetime ... far too concerned with Iraq when AQ was the real threat, but Daddy issues and all that ... then bungled the mission in Afghanistan, started a useless and arguably illegal war in Iraq then allowed all the no bid contracts benefitting Cheney and friends ... squandered the budget surplus that Clinton left him ... had no real domestic policy thus creating the housing crisis ... all around disaster ...
     
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    Sorry no one by that name was ever president
     
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    Donald J. tRump; then. AKA; Donald Judas tRump.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    8) Yep!
     
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    Nope. No one in the last 100 years has demonstrated the sheer feckless and destructive incompetence of team Biden. You couldn't do a better job of destroying the country if you tried than what Biden & Co. have done.
     
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    That's nonsense. President Biden hasn't come close to instruction.
     
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    My main issue is decentralised power, with executive overreach not far behind. Lincoln scores low on these issues for me, not far behind FDR.
     
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    Obviously not. If he ever had decent instruction he might not be screwing everything up.
     
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    The worst Presidents in my 3/4 century lifetime (it's difficult to put them in the proper order of who's the worst so this is the tentative order):

    1. Donald Trump - Unhinged, totally demented narcissist who was/is only all about himself. War criminal, 400,000 dead on his watch, violator of human rights, Constitutional criminal, racketeer, sexual predator, insurrectionist, fascist, no positive qualities whatsoever.

    2. George W. Bush - 9/11 on his watch, ignored multiple warnings, stood down on 9/11 and attempted to block any investigation, complicity to terrorism and possible deeper involvement. War criminal, hundreds of thousands massacred on his watch in genocidal wars based on overt lies under pretext of 9/11, violator of human rights including but not limited to torture and indefinite detention absent due process, Constitutional criminal, racketeer, fascist.

    3. Richard Nixon - Vietnam war on his watch including deliberately extending the war for his own gains. Watergate and the illegal war on drugs. War criminal, hundreds of thousands dead on his watch, violator of human rights, Constitutional criminal, racketeer, fascist.

    4. Barack Obama - War criminal, hundreds of thousands massacred on his watch in an extension of the Bush genocide, indiscriminate drone murders of innocent people, violator of human rights, continuation of torture and indefinite detention absent due process, Constitutional criminal.

    5. Lyndon Johnson - Vietnam war on his watch escalated under a false flag. War criminal, hundreds of thousands dead on his watch, violator of human rights, Constitutional criminal, racketeer.

    6. Harry Truman - Dropped 2 nuclear weapons on innocent civilians murdering a couple of hundred thousand, Korean war on his watch, hundreds of thousands dead on his watch, violator of human rights, Constitutional criminal, architect of the CIA criminal organization.

    Honorable mention for the list of worst: Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan.

    On the fence: Joseph Biden, Franklin Roosevelt

    The best of the worst (maybe?): Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter
     
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