Theistic Evolutionary Theory and The Divine Feminine/God The Mother??!!

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The masculine and feminine thought and behaviour patterns may have a basis in theoretical physics.

    http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/gender/g1.htm


    http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/book/life1.htm

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This web page presents a powerful case that near death experience accounts may fit perfectly with String Theory??!!

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research08.html

    The NDE and Science
    Kevin Williams' Research Conclusions


    If Kevin Williams' theories are correct then the stage is set for a more theistic version of evolutionary theory to play a major role in breaking women out of near slavery like conditions in the developing world??!!

    Christian Adreason reports that duirng his NDE he got the distinct impression that the person who Christians call the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is none other than God the Mother!!!???

     
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    The smell of the pseudoscience is in the air.

    Really? Oh come on. You don't expect me to believe this, do you?
     
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    This sounds like that Human Thermal Dynamics theory voodoo.

    Stop idealizing the human, we're not all that. :blankstare:
     
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    This squeaky-voice drivel just proves that a Mama's Boy becomes a boytoy.
     
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    cosmic porn! who'da thunk.
     
  7. DennisTate

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    So your view of a possible God or Creator type of being is limited to an old guy with a beard sitting on a throne??!!

    I first heard of The Cyclic Model of the Universe in "STephen Hawking's Universe" in the Chapter entitled "The Anthropic Principle!"

    It seems kind of unlikely that such an excellent explanation of the Cyclic Model would be given to somebody while they are near death unless the NDE accounts correspond with String Theory??!!


    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05

    (Mellen Benedict)
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well............it may well be one of the best possible ways for nuclear WWIII to be prevented that we might be able to use to get our kids or grandkids out of the type of hopelessness that lies at the root of drug addiction???!!

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/storm03.html
    (former atheist Howard Storm)
     
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    The basis of a Theory is
    1- Does it explain all current observed phenomena with fewer assumptions or assumed entities than existing theory.
    2- Does it allow predictions to be made of as yet unquantified phenomena or events.
    3- Is the theory testable (falsifiable) by experimentation.
    When you have a theory that meets these criteria come back.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Zo0tie......have you ever read STephen Hawking's Universe?

    Do you think that my blog is seriously in contradiction to Dr. Hawking theories in his chapter, The Anthropic Principle?

    http://www.carbonbias.blogspot.ca
    Dogmatic Atheists Lack Mathematical Aptitude.
     
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    The strong anthropic principal (SAP) "The Universe must have those properties which allow life to develop within it at some stage in its history."
    The weak anthropic principal(WAP) "The observed values of all physical and cosmological quantities are not equally probable but they take on values restricted by the requirement that there exist sites where carbon-based life can evolve and by the requirements that the Universe be old enough for it to have already done so." In other words, 'we are here having this conversation because the conditions here were right for life to evolve into beings capable of having this conversation. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation.'

    Neither of these principals have anything to do with donkey rides to Bethlehem, Roman executions, turning water into wine, or rolling rocks away on property on earth currently owned by Israel.
    I am well aware that the strong anthropic principal is misused to support the ridiculous creationism ideas.
    From wiki:
    "No possible observational evidence bears on Carter's WAP, as it is merely advice to the scientist and asserts nothing debatable. The obvious test of Barrow's SAP, which says that the Universe is "required" to support life, is to find evidence of life in universes other than ours. Any other universe is, by most definitions, unobservable (otherwise it would be included in our portion of this universe). Thus, in principle Barrow's SAP cannot be falsified by observing a universe in which an observer cannot exist."

    Even IF the SAP were falsifiable by some other means it would not point to the Semitic tribal sky father described in your silly little book.
     
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    Or perhaps God, Thermal Dynamics??!!

    http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Experiences/robyn_nde.htm





     
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    Zo0tie......up until 2003 I was seriously into Yahoo groups but once I discovered this type of discussion forum....I was hooked.....What you just wrote is certainly one of the most intelligent and well written replies that I have ever received in debate!!!!????

    You may think that this is a diversionary tactic....and you could be onto something....but I felt to let you know that I am well aware that some of the most off the scale ethical people are atheists.

    One of the most extreme examples of this occurred when the leaders of the nation of Israel were discussing what to do regarding the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia. The strongest voices in favour of rescuing Falasha Jews and bringing them to Israel.....were not the most religious Israelis....but often the most irreligious!!!!????

    In my opinion the rescue of the black Jews of Ethiopia by primarily caucasian Israelis is one of the most impressive acts of the last fifty years!!!!!???

    Zo0tie.....I am of the belief that you and I can begin discussion on some truly HUGE topics....such as tackling climate change through investment in turning deserts green which in my opinion has the potential to be a part of a full scale "Unified Theory of Modern World Problems!"


    http://www.christianforums.com/t7735229/
    Unified Theory of Modern World Problems??!!
     
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    So Zo0tie...how did the elephants know that their friend and rescuer had died!!!?????

    http://www.nderf.net/index.php/nderfblog/how-did-they-know

    HOW DID THEY KNOW? SOMETHING IN THE UNIVERSE THAT IS MUCH GREATER or DEEPER THAN HUMAN INTELLIGENCE. THE ELEPHANT"S JOURNEY TO PAY RESPECT, BUT HOW DID THEY KNOW?
    (Garry Lawton)

     
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    No one truly knows how the Elephants knew the man had died, and though a fascinating and inspiring story it has nothing to do with the great and powerful bearded sky king, any more than Alien communication beacons implanted in the brains of Pachederms.

    Attributng the strange and poorly understood to a fairy entity is a poor way to increase knowledge.
     
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    Thank you for the compliment Sir! :smile: Normally I try to give the best and most intelligent responses to sincere questions and comments. But I have sensitive BS radar as well. :wink:

    Well I consider myself more of a Neopagan who seeks a poetic harmony with scientific reality. As Mark Train said, "I have nothing against organized religion...as long as it does not hurt anyone.":grin:

    I only have a passing knowledge of the Falasha rescue and have issues with the Zionist experiment in Israel but we can let that pass for now. Humans in general have an empathy for their own species and even for others, as your elephant story demonstrates. It takes time and a whole lot of toxic education to turn a caring little child into a callous killer. Sometimes as adults we can crack through that hardened layer of cultural crap, if only for a moment. I wouldn't even be on this forum if I didn't see occasional bouts of intelligent conversation. I welcome an intelligent conversation about various topics. When I see this forum swamped in a septic swarm of verminous troll droppings as so many other forums have suffered I will leave.:hmm:

    Personally I believe that the Goddess of Life has tasked us to be stewards of this planet. If we do well She will provide us a universe where we can expand our influence. Promotion based on competence. No giant magic hand. No new Jerusalem. Just the simple scientific truth that an environmentally, socially, politically stable, fully mature civilization on this earth will have developed the skill set necessary to colonize other worlds. And will have the unconsumed material and energy resources to do so. And if we fail? As Clint Eastwood so eloquently stated, "Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms." Extinction is Her way when a species destroys its habitat.
     
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    Come on. We all know that Elephants are telepathic aliens from the Vega system. Mr. Lawrence Anthony was the U.N. ambassador to them, but the government kept all hush-hush.

    (See I can make wild assumptions about events without using a scrap of logic too.)
     
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    I have had experiences where I have sensed people and events that I could not possibly know about. And others have known about some important event in my life when they could not possibly know about it. Elephants are flesh and blood like us so I don't see why they don't have that undefinable 'something' in them that we share. Miracles are everywhere if you have the right frame of mind/spirit/body to see them. However:oldman:, it may not be appropriate to obsess about those miraculous events or turn them into some massive religious structure. Instead we should see them quiet little messages, hints,...tweets from the Goddess confirming Her presence in our lives and comfort or guidance on what our path should be.

    Perhaps more important than how the elephants knew about his death is the deeper message that when we show aid, kindness, generosity to others, even those of another species the forces of the cosmos will take note. And also that we are not as unique as we think we are and other animals may have qualities that we arrogantly reserve for ourselves. Blessed Be.
     
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    You have two distinct possibilities here, that elephants can sense the death of humans they know from a great distance, or that, as they had in the past, the elephants chose to travel in that direction to that place for some other reason not obvious to human observers, and the timing of the death was merely a coincidence.
     
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    Tecoyah.....within five minutes after you and I die we may find out that you were closer to the truth than I was???!!!!

    On the other hand I ran into what I considered a brilliant write up on the idea that absolutely EVERYTHING is interconnected......For example.....I suffer from the possible delusion of grandeur that you are my grandson from one or more of my probable past lives.....where HaShem/The G-d of Abraham sent me back down here into the four dimensional space-time continuum as members of virtually every ethnic and racial group on earth.

    I read both of Helen Wambach Ph. D.'s books on her fascinating studies of what people saw about the past.....and even about the future.....in studies where people were regressed backward in time....or progressed forward in time...while in a hypnotic state.

    Her work impressed me so much that I have came to the place where I personally believe that her conclusion that something like "reincarnation" is actually a part of human soul evolution....is too well written up for me to dogmatically write off as simply being wrong....

    Anyway...here is a link into a NDE that presents the theory that EVERYTHING is connected????!!!!


    http://www.near-death.com/dennis.html

     
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    Since getting hooked on discussion forums I have ran into a number of "Neopagans who also seem to be seeking "a poetic harmony with scientific reality" and frankly they have been some of the most well read, articulate and ethical people that I have ever had the privilege to discuss various subjects with!!!

    I am convinced that the Divine Feminine/The Shekina Glory of G-d/God the Mother/The Holy Spirit....by whatever name she is known, has an astonishing sense of humour.......I have ran into astonishingly impressive evidence....that the Palestinian people......are very probably the great, great, great, great....grand daughters and grand sons of the Messianic Jewish Community of the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt.....who did not join in the uprising for a number of reasons....and thus when the Romans crushed the followers of Bar Kochba and Rabbi Akiba....they did not expell the vast majority of these people from the Roman province of Judaea....because they had not joined in it????!!!!!!

    Deep....sophisticated humour of the type that cuts us down to a place of humility.....seems to jump up at us over and over and over again everywhere that we look...How can such a phenomena be pure coincidence????!!!!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...-expelled-judaea-after-bar-kochba-revolt.html


    Are the Palestinians the Jews NOT expelled from Judaea after Bar Kochba Revolt?

    Because Orthodox Jewish scholars firmly believe in the restoration of the lost tribes of Israel this new genetic research that indicates that the Palestinians are "Jewish" may play a significant role in genuine peace coming between Israelis and Palestinians!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai

    (Wikipedia.org)

    http://www.drbo.org/chapter/26048.htm
     
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    Well I try. We were given minds, mouths, and hands to communicate with each other, not kill each other. There's that ol' threefold law y'know! Nevertheless, when I'm confronted by abysmal stupidity and arrogance...well...I'm not a Christian. But then...most Christians aren't either. :wink:

    Yeah I know. The fanaticism of the zealots and the murderous way they killed any Jew who wasn't 'one of them' during the great revolt of 66 AD weakened them and probably aided their defeat. Titus Flavius reportedly refused to accept a wreath of victory for conquering Jerusalem, as he claimed that he had not won the victory on his own, but had been the vehicle through which their God had manifested his wrath against his own people. There's a theory that the dead sea scrolls were left there because the supposedly peaceful acetic essenes who left them there died at Masada, probably by their own hands. Such is the way of religious fanaticism.:eyepopping:

    I'd say it's intuitively obvious to the casual observer. It takes a lot of BS Sunday School indoctrination to make any white american really believe there's any significant genetic difference between the Palenistian 'ayerabs' and a Jew who's family has lived in the area for centuries. To a Zionist Ashkenazim Jew who claims Palestine as his 'homeland' "I say y'all look like white folk to me, and doin' what you white folk always do. Takin' land from the black, brown, and red man. How does that make you any different in the eyes of a just God or Goddess.":cool:
     
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    ... a third possibility is mental telepathy....
    Something akin to what happens among whales who apparently are in communication with one another, though the members of the species might be separated by great distances.


    "We know very little about whale communications. That is why we are looking for patterns of association and coordination. The problem is that the whales are spaced so far apart," says Clark. However, the SOSUS system is providing a wealth of new data. In weeklong soundings at the U.S. Navy's Joint Maritime Facility in St. Mawgan, Cornwall, England, Clark has obtained thousands of acoustical tracks of singing whales for the different species throughout the year. "We now have the ability to fully evaluate where they are and how long they sing for," he says. "We now have evidence that they are communicating with each other over thousands of miles of ocean. Singing is part of their social system and community."
     
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    Those whales are communicating by singing, and the sound waves travel thousands of miles through the ocean.
    There is no evidence of mental telepathy.
     

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