There’s a Surprisingly Plausible Path to Removing Trump From Office

The current impeachment process is constitutionally valid. Also, nobody is suggesting that Trump should be removed because certain people’s feelings and opinions are against Trump and his policies. What the congress is saying is that Trump has abused his power and through his minions attempted to bribe and coerce a foreign government into doing his bidding for political reasons while using the threat of withholding strategic military aid as a weapon.

The congress is about to call witnesses to support their assertions starting tomorrow. That’s how it works. I would suggest that everyone from both sides of the political spectrum listen to what these witnesses have to say with an open mind and judge their credibility just like any jury would at any trial.

Then and only then, can one claim to have an informed opinion. I have heard a lot of hyperbole from both sides at this point and still am skeptical regarding whether or not this is an impeacheable offense. In open hearings with witnesses being questioned by advocates from both parties hopefully we can get a better picture of what exactly happened here.

 

Here is the wrong done by the Democrats. Since it is merely an inquiry, they foment, promote the idea Trump did wrong. Then they try to claim it is merely an inquiry. But the media by what they allege promotes that Trump is actually guilty. And Little Adam Schiff fans the flames as does Eric Swalwell from Dublin, CA. I am so thankful to have moved out of his district.

 

I take it you mean in 2015 when Biden virtually horsewhipped Ukraine to do his bidding using a billion dollars of taxpayer money. But thus far he has gotten away with it. Even the media protects him.

 

The schmedia (including Fox) report what they choose to report. That's the answer to you post.

 

No.....I mean exactly what the current impeachment discussion is about, and Trump is the headline, not Biden who is not even in Congress.

There is zero doubt that Biden blackmailed the bejeezus out of Ukraine to get Shokin sacked. Hang him if you reckon you can. No skin off my nose.

 

Schiff is in effect prosecuting an impeachment trial. What different does it make if he is big or little? Evidently both Schiff and Swalwell feel that Trump is acting in a way that is detrimental to US security and thus our national interest. It doesn’t matter if Swalwell is from Dublin California or Tupelo Mississippi or whether or not you like him. The real issue is whether or not what Trump did warrants his removal from office. Open hearings start tomorrow at which witnesses will be called in to testify about the incident. Let’s see what they have to say under direct and cross examination.

 

If articles of impeachment make it to the Senate, Biden, his son, Chris Heinz and Devon Archer will be skinned alive.

 

I don't fear that. I don't care. I doubt the CJ of SCOTUS (in the Senate 'Trial' if there is one) is going to allow a fishing expedition against anyone who is not the subject of the 'Trial.'

 

Don't be coy, It's silly.under the circumstances

 

The biggest problem with this theory is that it would require an open vote to set the rules for allowing a secret vote on the impeachment trial. Any R senator that voted for such rules would be at just as much risk as one who voted for removal.

Unfortunately most (all?) R senators will put re-election ahead of their oath to defend the Constitution, so will vote to acquit Trump regardless of the evidence (and would not vote in favor of a secret vote on the removal question).

 

'Or the Senators questioning them will.

 

Fishing? Whether Biden did or didn't extort the Ukrainian President into firing Shokin because he was investigating Burmisa or not is a key element to whether Trump was out of line or not. If Biden did what he said he did, then it's worthy of further investigation by the Ukraine and the U.S. AG. It would be Abuse of Office and Trump would be perfectly justified in asking for further investigation. We won't know if the relationships aren't fully investigated.

 

I'm willing to let the chips fall where they may. Paying a Vice President's son $50,000 a month when he brings nothing to the table but his relationship with the VP of the United States.....just stinks and is worthy of further investigation.

 

Its very, very hard for some people to admit they made a mistake.

 

SOME months he was paid as much as $50,000. In 2005 on Larry King Trump claimed he LOVED nepotism.

 

This is absolutely not the time for secrecy. Here men need to be resolute and unwavering in their conviction. This is no small matter, the unseating of an elected President of the most powerful nation on Earth. Stand and deliver, put your name on it. If one will not openly argue this thing I doubt the conviction and honor of those involved.

Take a lesson in leadership, honor an conviction from the 56 signatories of The Declaration of Independence. They told the King to stuff it and openly signed their names with a flourish.

"We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor"

 

Private business vs Government office, don't you know the difference?

 

The investigation to begin with, and impeachment for lying? When every single politician lies for a living? Pfft. It was a BS thing to do.

 

Are you against a secret ballot for yourself?

 

Trump doesn't seem to. In government you're not supposed to make your son-in-law your top advisor even though he has no qualifications for anything i can see.

 

You are confused. Having a trusted son-in-law as an advisor vs hiring some other countries Vice Presidents son for $50,000 a month to gain access to their father's favor........Alek, you're joking right?

 

Having your son-in-law in charge of the foreign policy of the most powerful nation in the world and his only qualification is he's as attracted to your daughter as you are? That would be ****** hilarious if it wasn't real.

 

Trump himself ultimately sets foreign policy. What did Biden's son bring to Burmisa?

 

I'm all for removing gerrymandering but with that swift movement of the pen, I'd like to also subscribe to placing term limits on ALL branches of government. No more life time appointments.

 

Nah...the liberal media is ordered what to report.The owners dictate the news. A proper totalitarian system has been established in the U.S media sphere. There are few liberals still working for FOX. On the other side, there is no one who dares to challenge liberal propaganda. It's 24/7 brainwashing, it's disgusting. The liberal pundits really think Americans are imbeciles.