There Is No Evidence That Voting By Mail Gives One Party An Advantage

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

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    There simply is no evidence of significant voter fraud. Nor is there evidence that mail in voting favors one party or the other.

    One investigative reporter informs us that vote by mail hurts dems as there is a disproportional number of errors on ballots in lower income groups, which results in more ballots being tossed in the spoiled pile.

    https://www.gregpalast.com/rush-to-vote-by-mail-could-cost-dems-the-election/
    Here’s what the “Go Postal” crowd doesn’t tell you: In 2016, 512,696 mail-in ballots—over half a million—were simply rejected, not counted. That’s official, from the federal Elections Assistance Commission (EAC).

    If anything, Republicans should welcome absentee balloting, as a number of states have been doing it for years, without issues. I've voted by mail for years, myself, it's convenient, no waiting in lines, etc., plus the fact that I can look up issues and ballot measures, gather information on the many down ballot candidates that I wasn't aware were on the ballot, researching them on the internet while I'm casting my ballot. Mail voting is really the way to go.

    Dems are for more democracy, it seems repubs don't like it when more people vote.
     
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    Every American should want as many citizens as possible to vote.

    we should have an 100% voter turnout!!!

    mail voting helps this happen
     
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    There is no evidence of voter fraud for mail in votes. However, it would be easier to commit fraud with mail in ballots because no poll worker has to actually see anyone.
     
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    Wanting to make sure there is no voter fraud equals republicans don't want people to vote.

    Liberals are fun.
     
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    if a zip code only has 15,000 people but 100,000 ballots come from that zip code, they will know fraud was committed.

    but seriously, who is gonna steal mail in ballots?

    what a silly idea
     
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    28 states already allow people to vote by mail, with no reason.

    you oppose that?
     
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    You don't have to steal them. My wife was out of town during the last primary. I called the county clerk and asked them to send her an absentee ballot. She got the absentee ballot and mailed it in. I could just as easily been someone else and had that absentee ballot sent anywhere or to anyone I wanted.

    When I was in the military, I sent requests for absentee ballots to the county clerk and had ballots sent to me. I could have been anyone and did the same thing.
     
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    absentee ballots should only be mailed to your registered address.

    if you moved over the last year, you should contact the state and inform them that you need your mail ballot sent to your new address

    you should have to verify your identity with some private info like your birthday, previous addresses, etc
     
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    So. If someone is travelling at the time of the election, they would not be able to vote. It does not work that way. I can get an absentee ballot sent anywhere I want it sent.

    All that "private" info is available to about anyone who takes the trouble to get it.
     
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    thats what an absentee ballot is for
     
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    But you said :"absentee ballots should only be mailed to your registered address."
     
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    yes.

    it can be mailed to you MONTHS before the election
     
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    Not necessarily. Sometimes the ballots are prepared only a few weeks before the election.

    When I retired, we bought a fifth wheel trailer and travelled for a year.
     
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    ok.......
     
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    The fact that Democrats and all other leftists are pushing this is evidence enough that it would be rife with fraud. Ain't gonna happen.
     
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    When I registered to vote, I needed no ID. Nor did my ex wife. In some states you do, but that ID in many cases is a drivers license. Democrats have made drivers license available to millions of illegals and all that proves is you live in the state which it was issued. Most countries require voter ID's, including Mexico and Canada. The Trump administration has offered to pay for voter ID's but Democrats keep turning it down. The only reason I can see for that is cheating. Make me feel differently. Give me a good reason the Democrats keep fighting it.
     
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    voting by mail is available in ALL 50 states.

    in 28 states you dont even need a good reason to request it
     
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    Evidence? Sorry, it's not evidence. You need to take a course in forensic science.

    Sorry, a number of states already have mail in voting, and have had it for years. No evidence of fraud, whatsoever. Remember Trump's voter fraud commission headed by Kris Kobach ( AKA 'the voter supression king' ) ? Well, they found hardly any cases of fraud, and the commission was disbanded.
     
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    There is no evidence that illegals are voting in a sufficient number to throw an election. If you think about it, it makes sense, because, first, it would get you deported, second, there's a record. Illegals voting is simply not happening. Maybe a small few, but it's not significant.

    We keep fighting it because we want to make it easy for honest folks to vote, and repubs do not. There is NO evidence of voter fraud that it would effect a national election.
     
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    Nice strawman. But, republicans have proved incontrovertibly they suppress the vote.
     
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    But that's the thing, its not happening. No one is committing voter fraud on any scale that would affect the outcome of national election.
     
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    Trump desperately tried to find evidence.

    he couldn't find ****
     
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    But we really don't know that for sure because it has never been thoroughly investigated.

    It like leaving the doors to the bank unlocked with no surveillance or alarms and leaving the uncounted money on the counter and then claiming there is no need for security because there is no evidence the bank was robbed.
     
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    "Desperately" does not mean it was a comprehensive investigation.
     
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    Republicans want as many or more people voting than Democrats do as there is less of us. We want honest voters and that is why we want voter ID.

    We really don't know how much voter fraud is going around. Trump tried to get states to go through ballots and check for it but the majority of states refused. Unless you check every name for citizenship, there is no way of knowing how many illegals are voting. We can fix that with voter ID. Not drivers license. I see no other reason for the Democrats to fight it except voter fraud.
     

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