There is no republican party platform. Its all about Trump.

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  1. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    << Mod Edit - Flamebaiting and group insults deleted for Rules 2 and 3>>

    The republican party is Donald Trump and Donald Trump is the only republican that matters. So whats inside that vessel that we call the Trump brain is the republican party? Its virtually an empty vessel beyond a soup-like substance of his gut politcal instincts for winning power and scoring points.

    Unimaginable that this once Grand Old Party is in this state of total dependence on that Trumpian set of neurons and synapses to find its meaning and relevance. The GOP chose worship of Trump for four years, over any larger policy driven articulated goals. They have no idea where they are heading or why, except that this power intoxicated driver is going to be driving their bus and all of them.

    We actually need TWO parties at the very least to run a democracy. <<MOD EDIT - Rule 2 - Deleted Group Insult>>
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How is this any different from Blue ?

    Blue is now the Neocon - Anti Environment party. If you talk about ending regime change wars - you have no place in the Blue party.
     
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    Its different because the GOP has become a cult.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So has Blue --- that's whole point of my post that you have seemingly blocked out of your mind.
     
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    GOP = Cult of Personality. It's sad.

    GOP was the party of balanced budgets. Now, with Trump, they have increased the National Debt as much in 3 1/2 years as Obama did in 8 years.

    GOP was the party of free trade. Now they are the party of trade wars.

    GOP was the moral majority party. Now they think that morality is not to be applied to a President.
     
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    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    You are kidding right. Name the cult figure at the lead, who does not have to compromise, does not have to negotiate, who simply IS THE PARTY? What is his name?
     
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    When you look at that the GOP actually said, you get a different picture.

    https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/doc...00.2055661719.1598124638-455285808.1584478680

    The what:
    RESOVLVED, That the2020 Republican National Convention will adjourn without adopting a new platform until the 2024 Republican National Convention;

    There will not be a new platform in 2020. Thus, the PREVIOUS platform stands.

    The why:
    WHEREAS, The RNChas unanimously voted to foregothe Convention Committee on Platform,in appreciation of the fact that it did not want a small contingent of delegates formulating a new platform without the breadth of perspectives within theever-growing Republican movement;

    Why did they do this? The statement, above, makes all the sense in the world.

    Funny how you people never tell the whole story.
     
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    You buy that? Tell me how is the party any more constrained in its breadth of perspective now, than it was in 2016 other than by the party leader and wanna-be ruler of all that he sees? Is there no method of communication allowed? Can they not manage to do the exact same thing that we are doing at PF every friggin minute of every friggin day and exchange viewpoints?
     
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    :lol:
    "They said it, so it must not be true"
    :lol:

    You were lied to, and you fell for it, because you were told what you wanted to hear.
     
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    I was going to post a thread about this. This is the "Trump convention", not the RNC convention. A Trump speech every night, Trump's kids and their wives/girlfriends all on the speaker list, and the usual GOP Trump boot lickers from the Senate and the House. Throw in some family members of illegal immigrant crime victims and the couple brandishing their guns at protesters, to rile up the racists in the base and the 2nd amendment afficionados. It is all so predictable.
     
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    I did not write a three word post that you quoted. I wrote this one.
    "You buy that? Tell me how is the party any more constrained in its breadth of perspective now, than it was in 2016 other than by the party leader and wanna-be ruler of all that he sees? Is there no method of communication allowed? Can they not manage to do the exact same thing that we are doing at PF every friggin minute of every friggin day and exchange viewpoints?"

    If you had no substantive rebuttal, you could just concede so.
     
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    And I responded.
    That you do not like the response is not my problem.
    Fact remains:
    You were lied to, and you fell for it, because you were told what you wanted to hear.
     
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    They are literally conceding that there is one man rule of the GOP. There is no national political party at all anymore. The party is completely empty of a new idea or any idea beyond total trust in one man.
     
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    Anti-environment?
     
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    I wasn't. There is no actual republican platform but there is a series of convention rules left over that describe a need for one and a process to be followed to create one. So they breached their duties to debate and compromise and vote for planks and language describing what they want to do in 2020, and what they believe in in 2020, because Trump said 'No, I don't want one' and they provided the GOP with a copy and paste fake rather than even debate a change in the rules requiring a platform.

    Its literally not a 2020 platform any more than the Democratic platform from 1948 can be copied and pasted to become their 2020 platform.
     
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    You know this statement is false.
    You know this statement is false.
    You know this statement is false.
     
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    There is no NEW platform:

    RESOVLVED, That the2020 Republican National Convention will adjourn without adopting a new platform until the 2024 Republican National Convention;

    Thus, the PREVIOUS platform stands.

    How do you not understand this?
     
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    How do you pretend that a 2016 copy and paste job becomes a 2020 republican party platform and still pretend to be a thinking hominid?

    They literally have no 2020 platform because Donald Trump does not want one.
     
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    Lol. No, Joe Biden isn't a cult leader.
     
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    how’s the platform about trump? seems like the same old platform as always
     
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    no Sanders is. Biden is just the front
     
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    Here now is a section of the proposed GOP 2020 platform as reaffirmed for truth by the RNC.

    "
    Balancing the Budget

    The federal fiscal burden threatens the security, liberty, and independence of our nation. The current Administration's refusal to work with Republicans took our national debt from $10 trillion to nearly $19 trillion today. Left unchecked, it will hit $30 trillion by 2026. At the same time, the Administration's policies systematically crippled economic growth and job creation, driving up government costs and driving down revenues. When Congressional Republicans tried to reverse course, the Administration manufactured fiscal crises — phony government shutdowns — to demand excessive spending. The Administration's demands have focused on significantly expanding government spending and benefits for its preferred groups, paid for through loans that our children and grandchildren will have to pay. This is the path to bankrupting the next generation.

    I want to point out that the 'current administration' is led by Pres. Donald Trump, and Vice President Pence and the RNC under the direction of the Platform Committee is proposing to blame their chosen leaders for and I quote ," systemically crippling economic growth and job creation, for manufacturing phony government shutdowns, to demand excessive spending" . I also should point out that the national debt is 25 trillion as of May 2020. and the trijectory is not looking good for an incumbent administration to showcase that topic in its own platform.

    Now I am not one to quibble with the sentiment at all, but it may be problematic down ballot, and it will piss off the current cabinet to be blamed like this.
     
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    Why do you choose to not understand that, absent a new platform, the current platform remains in place?
     
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    So you have chosen sides in the current debate question in republican circles. Resolved: Joe Biden is a corporatist trojan horse leading progressives to disown their own beliefs and the Sanders movement" You have decided to argue against the resolution.
     
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    You are clearly confused. Trump outlines his agenda and policies and plans in almost EVERY speech and all the democrats talk about is Trump Trump Trump. Its sad how much denial you guys on the left are living in.
     
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