There is NO Saudi "100 Billion Arms 'deal'"

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  1. Taxonomy26

    Taxonomy26 Banned

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    Trump Lies on Every issue. (count now around 5000)
    Then he creates New lies based on his old ones.
    There's Never been Anyone in Public life anywhere who has lied as much as Trump... Exponentially.
    Not close.

    Trump deals with Saudis may be worth much less than $110 billion
    BY ELLEN MITCHELL - 10/25/18
    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...audis-may-be-worth-much-less-than-110-billion

    "....Trump has emphasized the importance of keeping the military deals in place, insisting that the U.S. not abandon the potential dollars even as his administration deals with the fallout from the Oct. 2 killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.

    While Trump has said it is possible that the Saudis will face sanctions, he has made clear he will oppose undoing deals to provide the country with arms.

    Yet some defense experts say the value of those deals — announced in May 2017 with only a broad description of the armaments that would be sold — aren’t really worth $110 billion.

    Bruce Riedel, a senior fellow with Brookings, said the deal is merely “Fake news” from the Trump administration.

    “The Saudis have Not concluded a Single major arms deal with Washington on Trump’s watch,”
    he argued.

    The Defense and State Department have offered few details to help clear up the confusion, and there is no public breakdown of pending foreign military sales (FMS).

    “The U.S. Government does not provide a country-by-country breakdown in open FMS cases due to requests from our partners to not disclose the information,” Pentagon spokesman Johnny Michael said in a statement to The Hill.

    Michael said that the U.S. signed a Memorandum of Intent with the Saudis in 2017 to jointly pursue “approximately $110 billion in Foreign Military Sales procurements over the next 10 years.”

    But Saudi Arabia so far has only signed “Letters of Offer and Acceptance” (LOAs) for $14.5 billion in sales of “helicopters, tanks, ships, weapons, and training,” according to Michael..."
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    stratego Well-Known Member

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    But $14.5 billion is a lot and can turn into $100 billion. That's equivalent to 280,000 people making $50,000 a year. If you take away $50,000 from 280,000 families you are condemning at least a million Americans to die of starvation because of lost income and ending of social security. You want to condemn 1 million to die to avenge the death of one journalist.
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This might be the dumbest thing ever written.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    I love the math. But wait, hold it! Weren't we talking a $450 billion deal and a million jobs? Just for the sake of argument, let's say there really is a $100 billion deal (there isn't). These contract deals spread out over years, not one lump sum. Second little fact is that the mil/aero business is built on contracts - they've got hundreds of them. This is just another open bid (if there is one) to be sliced up by a hundred contractors and sub contractors.

    If there are any new jobs created (there would be few) they won't be going to unemployed coal miners The industry is staffed up and ready to go. Seen the latest Boeing and Grumman ads? This is just another nice piece of business and thank you Mohammad Bone Saw.
     
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    Bit like the North Korea deal isn't it.
     
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    Fake news.
     
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    :roflol:

    Huh?:smfh:
     
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    Bone Saw meet Bone Spurs.

    That has a nice ring to it.
     
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    You're right. I forgot about Atlas shrugged.
     
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