This comparison shows how Russia’s latest nuclear weapons dwarf America’s (and everyone else’s)

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    https://sofrep.com/106086/this-comp...ar-weapons-dwarf-americas-and-everyone-elses/

    The journal Popular Mechanics, in turn, pointed out that Status 6, the weapon of the Doomsday, can bypass the missile defense of other states and destroy entire coastal areas, sending tsunamis on them and making them unsuitable for life because of radioactive fallout.

    In March, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced the beginning of the development of a special weapon that does not use the ballistic flight trajectory and is therefore immune to missile defense systems.

    He also talked about unmanned underwater vehicles, capable of moving at a very deep depth and speed. Similar devices can be equipped with both conventional and nuclear munitions.

    This is not "Status 6". These are new types of underwater drones. One of them is called "Poseidon", but there are other more powerful and perfect.

    Only the presence of a powerful and invincible weapon in Russia can protect the world from madmen in the Pentagon and Washington.

    If you think this is an exaggeration, look at the number of US military bases and compare them with the number of Russian military bases. Or another example - see how many wars the United States has started and compare them - how many wars Russia has started. And it will become obvious to you that the US and NATO are an aggressor. Russia is a peacemaker.

    What do you think about it?
     
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    The size of a nuke doesnt really matter past what we already have. You cant kill people more. We can park our subs right in your harbors and launch from there so extra potent nukes is like saying I doubled the dose of lethal poison. It doesnt matter.
     
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    I think someone has a size issue or erectile disfunction. That’s why he comes here and keeps posting “my D is bigger than yours” every couple of weeks. I guess it just helps him to cope with his personal insecurities.
     
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    I don't think about it. I don't care.
     
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    Soon we'll find out. Does the size matter or not
     
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    Maybe you'll ask the doctor to explain to you that the article is written to the American media. For you impossible to understand this independently, as I understand it. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    As the Jewish king Solomon said, Knowledge multiplies sadness. Psychologists, by the way, also say that it is easier for people with low intelligence to live. Such people do not worry and do not have stress.

    Don't worry be happy

     
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    It matters greatly. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were practically leveled, scores of people got cancers from the radiation effect. More and more advanced nukes do not make the world safer, but a more dangerous place. And this mother of all nukes(MOAN) imo is a violation of the Start Treaty, as well as every other form of arm control imaginable. Such destructive power is unthought or heard of before.

    We can see through the development of these destructive weapons that Russia does not pursue the interest of peace.
     
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    It's a standard part of Russia's sustained propaganda campaign against the west, this notion that their military is superior and something we need to fear and respect. This, then, ties in with another part of their campaign - that any of our politicians who aren't Putin's obedient servants the way Donny is are seeking an armed conflict with Russia. Obviously, that would be suicidal for us, because Russia's military is almighty and unbeatable, as per that first bit. Then there is the third major point - Russia just wants to be friends and get along. It's those evil warmongers who aren't right-wing nationalists who happen to respect Putin and his illegal invasions and annexations, killings of innocent people, and support for a fellow dictator-for-life in Syria and his butchery of cilivians who won't allow for us and mighty Russia to be friends.

    Thus we are to believe that Russia has us beaten militarily and that this mighty military is a deadly threat that our own governments are threatening us with through their continued provocation of mighty Russian bear. We are expected to elect pro-Putin leaders who will let Vlad be bad and, oh yeah, lift sanctions so that he can access his stolen money again.
     
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    It needn't be superior, it can be equal and in such a conflict, both countries will lose lives. But can we stomach it? Even in WW2, after Pearl Harbor the enemy never got close to US territory again. We were morally stunned as a nation after 9/11, because no one thought war would enter our domestic shores.

    I'm going to be blunt: We don't have the stomach necessary for a long, drawn-out war or a war with significant US losses and presence of enemy solders on US territory. If an enemy is able to draw the US within a close-range situation, we lose due to the morality. We'd crumble.

    Also, because US domestic capabilities have eroded in the last 30 years, we would not be able to have a WW2 like-resurgence as in the mid 50's-60's. No, it's more like we'd start at 1928 levels, and it'd take us all the way until 1946 to bounce back.

    Our erosion of domestic capabilities, combined with our weakened purchasing dollar and the destructiveness of such a war and every pro-war person that is left in the ruins of the future US will weep. We may very well win the war, but lose the war of US supremacy.

    Basically, it'd be the South's outcome of the Civil War, but on a grander scale including all regions of the US.
     
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    Good point - we're also supposed to believe that we as a nation are weak and that our own military is in shambles. Thanks for reminding us.
     
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    I didn't say our military is in shambles. In fact, that's the one thing Washington constantly pours money into. And it's not a belief that we are mentally weak. I mean look at us: "OMFG, Russian collusion!" Evidence? None withstanding. Hysteria still ensues? Yep. Now, imagine such a mentally frail, weak country being nuked. The paranoia would go to a BILLION.

    As an American Nationalist, I don't give two-fers what Russia wants or what Russia is interested in. I observe my own country lacking the moral fortitude for such a conflict, and I'll call it out. We lack the moral resolve to even say "You know what, Islam/West are incompatible." A basic observation, but one that this country struggles, to this day to admit.

    If we fight a modern day war, with modern day weapons and significant US losses, the Left will be among the first to wave the white flag. Because such logistical losses were never figured into the equation. They never happened until the outbreak of said war.
     
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    Most of us are not claiming that there definitely was collusion. I just see an investigation into the matter connected with the investigation into Russia's known, proven meddling in our society and politics. I don't see hysteria over this, either, but justifiable outrage and a sense that this president isn't to be trusted because of what we do know so far. It doesn't help el presidente's case that he doth protest far, far too much.

    As for war, I doubt very much one is coming, and I am telling you right now that opposing Vlad the Invader's abuses is not tantamount to declaring war on mighty Russia. They are bluffing, and bluffing big, to try and scare us into acquiescing.
     
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    Only thanks to the presence of Russia's superweapons, the crazy in the Pentagon and Washington did not start the third world war.
     
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    Are you in adequate condition? This article is written in the American site. What kind of Russian propaganda are you talking about? Maybe you should visit a doctor?
     
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    And here you are, a Russian troll, using it to try and influence us via social media exactly as I have described.
     
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    You must learn these words by heart.
     
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    It's amazing. US military experts write an article in the US news site, but the Russians are to blame for this. Do not you think that there is no logic in your words? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    You are an amazing person. You have been shown new Russian weapons, the US military and the CIA recognize the presence of new weapons from the Russians ... but you say it's Putin's bluff. It's amazing.
     
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    Maybe not in the short term but have you heard of the escalation theory? Each action piles up onto its own and then it becomes a wildfire. Like in WW1, how an assasination of an Archiduke by a Serbian nationalist resulted in the entirety of Europe, Asia and NA in a battlefield.

    We could for sure continue to sanction the Russians, we could even engage militarily in Syria and in Ukraine, but each such engagement increases the risk of war, and since peace is too 'harsh' of a word at the moment, let us at least aim for a livable neutrality.

    It's not so much that the Russian military is big and bad, I even said it's wholly possible we win said war. I basically said we don't have the stomach for it. And we don't. After 9/11, under the faulty direction of the Bush Administration we came 'wahing' with our military and ended up not having an effect on Al-Qaeda extremists.

    Now, the 9/11 attacks is childs play to enemy fire on US Soil, or imagine seeing Russian troops on US Soil. The mental shock for this country would just be devastating. It's not even missiles at that point, we'd just be demoralized.

    If Washington wants to have such an engagement, if we feel we have to have that engagement then collectively as a citizenry we're going to have to suck it up. Because we haven't been in that kind of conflict since 1939-1945(Actually for us it's more like 1942-1945) and we haven't been anywhere close to such a situation since.
     
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    Russia has no logistics to deliver significant number of troops on US soil.
    All it has is nukes, nothing else. It’s a midget with a gun.
     
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    If true we can turn your country into gravel and you can turn ours into dust. Who wins in that scenario?
     
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    Not the people of America/Russia, that's for sure. Hell, not even the "establishment". It'll be those who save themselves/protect themselves and rule over whoever's left. After the war would come serfdom. The war has the potential to significantly kick back human and civil rights.
     
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    Both countries would be in ruins and the war between the two would be over. Then the internal wars begin among survivors as you say.
     
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    I know that is your mission, Boris.
     

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