This Is Scott Walker's Idea Of A Living Wage

My guess is you are only considering the service labor and not the labor embedded in the component material. Also, a raise in minimum wage will not be restricted to minimum wage labor expenses; all labor expenses will be affected.

Another question I have is what calculation is used to determine the equilibrium point of labor supply and demand that equates to an overall net benefit to the economy? What wage will help and what wage will hurt?

 

You need necessities? A bit redundant, don't you think?

Do you even read what you write? You have it totally bass ackawards...and that explains a great deal. The costs in your little list of necessities is what determines the cost of living-- not the other way around. Geez.

Please keep your BS straw man arguments to yourself. The only thing I'm pretending here is interest in what you think since none of it is ground in fact or reality.

Yea, go get your own silver spoon, peasant.

You were implying it when you wrote "Capitalism is supposed to naturally keep prices low and wages high, through competition of a large variety of competing businesses... But no matter, you are still wrong. Capitialism has built in forces that can just as easily work in the opposite direction. GEEZ!

Yawn... you're an absolute whack job! You argue that MOST employers devalue employees and now your are arguing my side?

restating more of the obvious-- got it!

Most employers? You, my friend are totally clueless. Go out and start a business.

I think I pretty much provided that to you in my previous post as a rebuttal to your ignorant rant against employers.

 

Repetition is how you learn, you obviously need to hear it over and over again.

The cost of living is subjective to the location you live in. Geez get a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing clue.

Go pretend you have a clue with somebody else. You are not fooling anybody here. You are not a mind reader and even when I provided you with an actual definition to socialism you are clueless. You are a terrible mind reader and if you own a dictionary you need to use it for something other than a booster seat.

Peasant? You poor little rich kid. So how much is your trust fund anyway?

 

Labor costs are the Number one cost in a lot of businesses.........

 

As long as the employees generate more revenue than the cost of their labor what's the big deal?

 

risk........

what happens when they don't? you cant pay them less

In the construction industry ............labor management will make or break you..........

 

1. So you want to legalize targeted theft, because it worked out so well for France.

2. Lets say I'm run a leasing office, a supermarket, and a power plant. Liberals come along and force me to pay you 250% more for your brainless mindless labor. I'm certainly not going to eat that cost for nothing. I'm going to recoup it by adjusting my COGS formula, aka passing the cost on to my customers. So now you're making an extra $15 an hour, but when you go to spend it you'll notice your rent has gone up ...the price for a gallon of milk has doubled ...and your electric bill will be so high you'll be using candles to light your home.

3. As someone who has created jobs I will tell you that drastically hiking the minimum wage will, without a doubt, severely hinder the potential for future new jobs nation wide. And I don't understand what you're saying here that no new jobs have been created as I read another post of yours where you claim Pen & Phone been creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs every month since taking office, so which is it?


I know you don't dare ever attempt to respond to me when I call you out on your absurdities but have you ever asked yourself why there has been no action on your side over this?

Do you ever wonder why all your overlords do is push the class warfare battle cry through their media mouthpieces?

 

'It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.' - R. Reagan

Liberals could learn a ton from George McGovern (D - Presidential Candidate 1972). After he retired from political life he opened a bed and breakfast. He learned how the world really works.

In 1988, I invested most of the earnings from this lecture circuit acquiring the leasehold on Connecticut’s Stratford Inn. … In retrospect, I wish I had known more about the hazards and difficulties of such a business, especially during a recession of the kind that hit New England just as I was acquiring the inn’s 43-year leasehold. I also wish that during the years I was in public office, I had had this firsthand experience about the difficulties business people face every day. That knowledge would have made me a better U.S. senator and a more understanding presidential contender.

Today we are much closer to a general acknowledgment that government must encourage business to expand and grow. Bill Clinton, Paul Tsongas, Bob Kerrey and others have, I believe, changed the debate of our party (1) . We intuitively know that to create job opportunities we need entrepreneurs who will risk their capital against an expected payoff. Too often, however, public policy does not consider whether we are choking off those opportunities.

 

Then by all means, keep repeating yourself... your caretakers should be along shortly to take you back to your room.

Um, so are you now arguing against your previous position that the "Cost of Living" determines wages and not the other way around? Just turn around and run... you can't backpedal worth a crap.

Still talking to yourself?

Yawn.....

Yawn...

 

That one word might be the smartest thing you have written down since the conversation began.

Do you know the difference between 'the boy who cried wolf' and your socialist rants? The boy actually knew what a wolf was.

Come on, tell the truth, you were one of those spoiled little rich trust fund babies, who never had to work an honest days work a day in your coddled life who had a bumper sticker on the brand new car mother and father bought you on your 16th birthday that said 'redistribute my work ethic not my wealth', aren't you?

 

Well, at least the smartest thing you could understand...and still it surpasses anything you've posted.

 

How would you know? You don't make counter points you just mislabel, misinterpret, and misdirect, but then again, I am probably giving you too much credit.

Come on don't be shy, how much did mommy and daddy give you so you could grow up and be successful enough to hate the peasants so much?

 

What do you think it is?

Why do liberals never answer that question?

 

Yet wages for building a $32,000.00 home in the mid 1970's are relatively the same wages as they are now only that same labor is building $350,000.00 homes today for someone else to pocket the value of their labor. (yes I know, supply and demand. IOW too many unskilled construction workers and not enough jobs, [their fault I know, for not having a skill, or be willing to work for a living, or because they are lazy or because they make poor life decisions, blahblahblah...] not to mention the unlimited supply of illegal aliens driving the cost of labor into the dirt, making it almost impossible to negotiate a realistic wage for the work you are doing).

 

I don't need to... you argue against yourself just fine. Keep up the good work! .

Credit? I doubt you have any.

Here's another smart reply for ya.... "YAWN".
Beside, I don't hate you peasants...you all are so masterful with toilet paper... I have the cleanest ass around.

 

If it ain't enough to live, then why aren't they dying?

 

Just a number, that's all I want to know about you. Everything else about you is undeniably obvious.

 

This false debate that Liberals (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s are putting forward on "Living Wage" is ridiculous and a smoke screen for their massive economic failures.

These jobs are not supposed to be "Living Wage" jobs. They are supposed to be for the student, kid, part time supplement, etc.... What they are not wanting to debate is how they destroyed all the skilled jobs that did support more than a living wage and provided the ability for people to move up in the workforce. This garbage is an idiot argument, designed to fool fools, that will not advance our nation one iota.

Rubbish.

 

Family. Friends. Charity. Roommates. Working beyond 40 hours like how MANY people already do. Advancement.

But I guess none of this applies, because all these people have no family, have no friends, can't make living arrangements with other people so as to cut down on costs, have multiple kids because they have no idea how to wait until they are able to afford kids, refuse to work more hours and suck at their jobs so bad that they are never able to be promoted.

And these are the types of people the rest of us are supposed to, literally, throw money at, either through taxes or by forcing these companies to pay them more?

Any semi-competent person could live on 7.25 an hour. Hence the fact none of them are dying. Is it rough? Sure, especially if you are lacking in the work ethic to get yourself to anyplace better. But let's cut the crap about thinking any of them are stuck there, because they aren't.

If they aren't willing to put in the effort/time to advance themselves, why should any of us be?

 

Boogieman

I hire people all day at 20+ an hour.............

Its lack of will to do manual labor ................that keeps Americans from doing these jobs

Trust me on this one.............there is no labor force in the construction industry to follow up the ones that will be retiring soon.

We have a hell of a problem on our hands...........

Too much work and not enough labor to perform it.

 

You hire them all day but there are none of them?

My grandpa was getting over $15 in the 70's and was getting $20 plus over 25 years ago. That is about the time the market got flooded with illegals. There was a few years that wages went down to below the 1970's rate here in the south, because they could get illegals for $6.50 or lower. I know of a roofer who had all the contracts for the new Wallyworlds from Texas to Florida who had three legal workers on his crew. Him and his two sons. They would just find a illegal alien safe house, knock on the door and tell them how many he wanted for the day. He would buy em lunch, a qt bottle of beer at the end of the day and give them a crisp brand new $20 bill when he dropped them back off at the house. That was 10-12 years ago but those houses are everywhere but the government can't seem to find any illegal aliens, and the IRS seems to think three people is all that is needed to roof a box store (what a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing joke our government has become).

That is why you don't have a steady supply of experienced 'American' workers don't exist.

If you are in Texas or any southern state and paying $20 + for construction workers, you are a rare breed. Most of the carpenters here are lucky to get $15, and it isn't steady. They can go to work at Lowe's or Home Depot for $10-12, it's steady work, with benefits, and they don't have to work near as hard.

 

Because the government supplements billionaires employees (*)(*)(*)(*)ty wages with our tax dollars, but mostly our grand-kids credit.

 

I think it's funny that you think tax dollars don't come from the rich.

 

No you don't. The truth would just humiliate you further beyond what your uninformed arrogance has done. You'd be better served if you'd just stick to the topic and maybe learn something-- it that's possible.

YAWN!...

 

I know my self-employment tax increased 5% last year.