This is the Beginning of the End...

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  1. Holubice

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    Millions of kids in Africa would like to be vaccinated, but nobody pay for them. And they die. Stop.

    Bill Gates is doing an excellent job in investing his money in Africa. Chapeau! But he had to give that money without to advertise his behavior, only someone Above have to know it, nobody else.

    And, as my laptop just 6 years old, almost never used, it is almost kapput, because Mr. Bill Gates (with laptops manufactures) they want I throw it from my windows as his Windows 10 is already a nightmare. At the same time, Mr. Gates is upset for our environment.

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    (Ok, it is in Spanish, but probably you will understand as well, or as to your mates in California and Florida...)

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  2. Holubice

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    When Argentine Government stopped to pay his ...

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    ... all his Tango Bonds, a lot of countries in the World say, correctly, that they had a robbery.

    Why the Chinese savers have not to do the same with U.S.A. ...? Is it just a matter of rockets and aircraft carriers...?

    I think Mr. Trump is doing the same of Micky Mouse ...

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    .. in the famous movie. He is acting as a apprentice wizard...



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  3. Xenamnes

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    The way the human species conducts itself, it deserves to be ended.
     
  4. Holubice

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    That we could summarize in these few words:

    "My money stay better in my pockets..."



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  5. Injeun

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    LOL! Sick but funny. Good one.
     
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    I looked through your "support" for this claim and you provide none.
    That's their choice. If they believe the fables and panic sell, then those that told them the lies caused the loss. You seem to be trying to point the finger elsewhere, yet it's you who made the claim.
    Looks like you are telling yourself scary stories to pass the time while you are sheltering-in-place. You probably should return to work. Your imagination is running wild.

    If the Lying Outlaw Regime in Beijing wants to dump its Treasuries, bring it on: it will cause yields to spike for an hour or two, at which point everyone will frontrun the Fed which will activate the turbo POMO and purchase every last penny that Outlaw Lying China had to sell.

    Lying Outlaw China's desperate fearmongering - as it tries to convince itself that it has some leverage over the US continues:

    China could trigger a crash in the US dollar and financial markets by flooding the market with US Treasuries for sale, which would push down US bond prices and cause yields to spike. But that would also ignite a global financial catastrophe, hurting China as well.​

    Two things: the financial catastrophe was already ignited when Outlaw Lying China allowed a deadly pandemic escape from Wuhan. Second: a sale of a mere $1.1 trillion in Treasurys now that the total US debt just surpassed $25 trillion would have absolutely no impact on anything, besides long-end yields, and even there the spike would be brief as the market realizes that the Fed can and will buy everything China has to sell.

    Oh, and a third thing: if China could actually crash the US dollar, both Powell and Trump would be giddy with happiness. In case someone still hasn't figured it out, the Fed wants to devalue the dollar, but with the world piling into US paper every time fear increases, and this is a fearful time, they can't seem to devalue it. Yet, here is Lying Outlaw China threatening to throw us into the brier patch. Wherever did we get the idea that these outlaw liars knew what the hell they were doing?

    None of this has registered with Lying Outlaw China which is dearly holding on to the myth that its sales of US paper could still have some impact:

    “There's a strong urge for countries like China, and Russia, to move away from US dollar settlements. This is simply because the US dollar can be weaponized by the US government,” said Xu Sitao, chief economist at Deloitte China, referring to the recent practice by the US government of cutting off foreign individuals, companies and governments from the global US dollar financial transaction settlement system, greatly complicating their ability to conduct business.

    “ Clearly there's more willingness for certain countries just to diversify and move away from US dollar settlements.”
    Sure, and just what currency does Outlaw Lying China propose to exchange its dollar-denominated reserves, which account for some 58% of its total FX holdings, into?
     
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  7. a better world

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    Ah...g'day Zorro, haven't seen you since the pandemic started...where shall I start with this....?

    How about this seen yesterday in the comments section, in professor Bill Mitchell's MMT blog:

    http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=44853&cpage=1#comment-67832

    "The interchange between (2 commentators on the blog) seems to be focused on whether the current pandemic is a serious enough blow to the neoliberal system to create a genuine opportunity to end it and replace it with something more humane and ecological......
    Don’t almost all of us on this blog want a better, more beautiful world than that of the neoliberal gerbil wheel, which grinds the marginalized and the natural environment as we frantically spin it? Only time will tell whether this sudden freezing of the neoliberal economy, which like some sharks must swim to breath, will have been long enough to threaten its existence"
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    IOW, the West with it's current neoliberal orthodoxy has some of its own private debt-financing problems (including funding for government) to deal with, as governments are forced to borrow ever more debt that cannot be repaid.

    OTOH, the China state managed financing model may well prove its superiority, regardless of differences in political systems.

    https://ellenbrown.com/2019/06/14/the-american-dream-is-alive-and-well-in-china/
     
  8. Swensson

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    Do you have a metric for how bad it will be, and on what time scale?
     
  9. Holubice

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    Western countries are not the center of the Universe anymore, my dear... Do you know this ancient book...?


    Yellow Peril


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    "... The Yellow Peril (also the Yellow Terror and the Yellow Spectre) is a color-metaphor that East Asians are an existential danger and threat to the Western world. As a psycho-cultural perception of menace from the Eastern world, fear of the Yellow Peril was more racial than national, a fear derived not from concern with a specific source of danger or from any one country or people, but from a vaguely ominous, existential fear of the faceless, nameless horde of yellow people opposite the Western world. As a form of xenophobia, the Yellow Terror is the fear of the non-white Other from the Orient, as imagined in the racialist book The Rising Tide of Color Against White World-Supremacy (1920) by Lothrop Stoddard.[1] ..."

    In other words, the western country a century ago were afraid the Asian countries could invade Europe nations and North America. But historically, just white peoples have invaded Asia, not vice versa, I mean India, Indochina, Indonesia, and part of China.

    Everybody has been impressed by the suddenly explosion of Chinese economy from 1990, when just in 10 years, their companies got a large share of market. But, in History, China has always been the largest economy in the World. In Marco Polo age, 80% of Global Domestic Products of the World was produced in Asia, and just 20% in Europe. China is getting back its place. Nothing else.

    You asked me what in the near future they are going to buy with your dollars?

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    ... probably those above...
     
  10. Holubice

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    Things will get worse and worse, than men will die just waiting the events to come... (1)


    Some people were talking about the temple, how it was decorated with beautiful stones and ornaments dedicated to God. Jesus said, "As for the things you are admiring, the time is coming when not even one stone will be left upon another. All will be demolished." They asked him, "Teacher, when will these things happen? What sign will show that these things are about to happen?" Jesus said, "Watch out that you aren't deceived. Many will come in my name, saying, ‘I'm the one!' and ‘It's time!' Don't follow them. When you hear of wars and rebellions, don't be alarmed. These things must happen first, but the end won't happen immediately." Then Jesus said to them, “Nations and kingdoms will fight against each other. There will be great earthquakes and wide-scale food shortages and epidemics. There will also be terrifying sights and great signs in the sky. But before all this occurs, they will take you into custody and harass you because of your faith. They will hand you over to synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors because of my name. This will provide you with an opportunity to testify. Make up your minds not to prepare your defense in advance. I'll give you words and wisdom that none of your opponents will be able to counter or contradict. You will be betrayed by your parents, brothers and sisters, relatives, and friends. They will execute some of you. Everyone will hate you because of my name. Still, not a hair on your heads will be lost. By holding fast, you will gain your lives. “When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then you will know that its destruction is close at hand. At that time, those in Judea must flee to the mountains, those in the city must escape, and those in the countryside must not enter the city. These are the days of punishment, when everything written will find its fulfillment.
    How terrible it will be at that time for women who are pregnant or for women who are nursing their children. There will be great agony on the earth and angry judgment on this people. They will fall by the edge of the sword and be taken away as captives among all nations. Jerusalem will be plundered by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are concluded. "There will be signs in the sun, moon, and stars. On the earth, there will be dismay among nations in their confusion over the roaring of the sea and surging waves. The planets and other heavenly bodies will be shaken, causing people to faint from fear and foreboding of what is coming upon the world. Then they will see the Human One coming on a cloud with power and great splendor. Now when these things begin to happen, stand up straight and raise your heads, because your redemption is near."
    Jesus told them a parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see these things happening, you know that God's kingdom is near. I assure you that this generation won't pass away until everything has happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will certainly not pass away. "Take care that your hearts aren't dulled by drinking parties, drunkenness, and the anxieties of day-to-day life. Don't let that day fall upon you unexpectedly, like a trap. It will come upon everyone who lives on the face of the whole earth. Stay alert at all times, praying that you are strong enough to escape everything that is about to happen and to stand before the Human One."


    Read all the things above, and you know what you have to expect in the near future...
     
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    So you argue that this happens, not now, but within one generation of Jesus' life?

    Really what I am asking is at what point can we look back at this and say that you were wrong, and using what metric we would be able to do so. Certainly, pestilences and famines are pretty easy to predict, so it doesn't lend a lot of credence to the rest of the prediction.
     
  12. Holubice

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    Definitively, He's coming...

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    Second Coming
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    I'm discussing this issue, in my language, in my country. I can not debate it in several places. I have no time to do it myself. Please have a look HERE. For sure, you don't speak Italian, so have a look here to automatically translate the page into your language.

    You have also to advice those American and English atheists, that have banned me form their forum. Say them that "Holubice", or "Quelo" wants they read it. Just copy and past this post, and insert it at the end of my 'presentation thread', in other words, exactly here:

    Atheist Forum:
    https://www.atheistforums.com/index.php?topic=13881.0

    Happy Atheists:
    https://www.happyatheistforum.com/f...a943e03d9ca78f8091613d9a125016a&topic=16514.0

    Atheist Forum Org:
    https://atheistforums.org/thread-6462.html

    Please, just do what I asked...

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    Looks like the Palestinian Arab that last month murdered an Israeli woman :(
     
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    People have been saying that for 2,000 years.
     
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    The guy who makes wedding cakes?
     
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    Without believing in god, I'm not either very optimistic on the state of the world and its future.

    But isn't Jesus supposed to be god ? If he is god, isn't he supposed to be all knowing ? Then how could he not know when time end.
     
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    Then you should understand it all comes down to economics, and who controls production and distribution.

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    When Debts Become Unpayable, They Should Be Forgiven (jacobinmag.com)

    (Sri Lanka is only the tip of the iceberg).

    Jesus is not God; a remarkable teacher, yes, but not God. From the above article:

    "That was what the first sermon of Jesus was all about. When he went to the synagogue and unrolled the scroll of Isaiah the prophet and said, “I’ve come to proclaim the year of the Lord,” which was the debt cancellation — the Jubilee year — that was brought in from Babylonia into Judaism, as it was done all through the Near East. People who translated the Bible didn’t really know what these words meant. What does it mean, “year of the Lord?” What does it mean, “deror?,” which was debt cancellation".

    Today the whole world, including all nations, is in thrall to private financiers.
     
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    This thread seems to be based on the idea that wars, pandemics, disease, starvation, etc. are all something new that is happening in modern times leading up to Jesus coming.

    Well we have had great plagues, mass starvation, economic disasters, etc. all throughout human history. The black death plague killed 200 million people. Genghis Khan killed so many people the earth cooled off. All of these Jesus is coming threads seem like religious hysteria IMHO. The fact is that in modern times we are better off than at any time in human history.

    I can't help but notice how religious prophecy never spells out exactly what will happen, when exactly it will happen, etc.-- just vague BS that could be interpreted to mean anything.
     
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    my theory is we are already in hell!
     
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    I believe that the five hour visitation with a near death experiencer gives a much better explanation for the next eleven years, (2020 to 2032).....

    Jesus Shows Kevin Zadai Next 11 Years in Heaven | Sid Roth
    August 9, 2020

    Kevin Zadai had a five-hour encounter with Jesus in Heaven. He says your understanding of Christianity is about to change, and a separation has already started!


    https://kevinzadai.com/videos/



     
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