This person's take on why JFK was murdered

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    There was no coup and the Warren Commission came to the correct conclusion based on evidence.

    No conspiracy theorist on the other hand has offered any evidence challenging the WC. State specifically what they covered up?
     
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    Not interested in your fact free trolling. Move on. Don't come back.
     
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    You are projecting as it is your posts devoid of facts now answer the question.

    This is a section for debatE and as I have been here far longer it is you acting as a troll so offer some evidence and debate or go to bed
     
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    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    I tried debating with you in good faith and you can't even be honest about matters of basic elementary physics. You aren't worth the bother.
     
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    No you never did try that sorry all you did was insist on some hearsay falsehoods being accepted as fact.,

    You never presented any evidence whatsoever to support your ideas. You ran from questions about physics and never answered.

    I am more informed than you which embarrasses you and you are out of your league but I am posting facts and crushing your beliefs and you KNOW IT
     
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    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    The deranged ramblings of some are so amusing and telling.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Yes that is true the conspiracy loons are deranged and amusing in their incoherent ramblings
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSXQYvm57YM
    The people who are in a position to know, know exactly why the Warren Commission whitewash is a joke. The evidence is abundant and only mentally ill
    deniers are fighting the facts. Hopefully they will die off soon and their diseased minds will no longer be doing the work of evil men.
     
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    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    Makes one wonder why we didn't invade Cuba then....
    PS; He authorized the invasion...
     
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    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    Yes. I made that unclear. Kennedy approved the CIA sponsored invasion of Cuba but only if America could plausibly deny involvement. When the attack went badly Kennedy decided not to provide the air cover and assistance he promised, fearing the black eye diplomatically, and the invasion ultimately floundered
    and left him with many bitter enemies within the CIA and Cuban expatriates (his assassination was originally to occur in Miami).
     
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    You also didn’t explain why we didn’t subsequently invade Cuba once he was “out of the way”.
     
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    I've always supposed it was because our attention was turned to Viet Nam instead.
     
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    Again, if the logic of Killing Kennedy was to to use the military to stem the surge of communism, it would seem that it would be better stemmed, better supported 90 miles from US soil instead of 9,000. l
     
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    That's your take in hindsight and you are welcome to it.
    LBJ got us into Viet Nam in a whole hog way that Kennedy was against or hesitant to do and if you believe the many historians that have studied the issue
    the assassination of John Kennedy kicked the door to Viet Nam wide open.
     
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    Wrong there are no such people and no evidence supports your claims sorry the evidence crushes you and you have none.

    Oswald did not care about Cuba or Vietnam and he killed Kennedy alone as the evidence proves.'

    In every thread you have failed to provide evidence and only run away like a coward when asked for any.
     
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    I can't insult you though it's what you deserve and it certainly would be foolish to waste my time arguing with an obviously impaired person but the House Select Committee on Assassinations
    definitively concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone in shooting JFK and could not have accomplished what the whitewashed Warren Commission claims he did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinations

    They don't go nearly far enough in drawing conclusions and condemning the obvious cover up and lies of the Warren Commission but the lie of the lone assassin was abolished in 1978 when the HSCA gave it's final report on the Kennedy coup d'etat.

    The public has rightfully never bought the lies the Warren Commission peddled and I feel sorry for those deniers and liars who still are flogging a dead horse when the mountains of evidence definitively show the crime that was too big to cover up for what it was....a murder of the president by shadowy forces within the government itself.
     
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    Insults are all you have.

    That is the sure sign of someone who knows they have lost.

    You completely lied and mis stated what the HSCA concluded.

    The did NOT conclude that Oswald did not act alone nor that the WC was wrong they in fact only concluded a PROBABLE conspiracy and nothing more.

    This was in turn based on one piece of evidence which was proven to be false only after the committee disbanded so sorry you are proven wrong again. That evidence was a dictaphone recording which has long since been discredited and without the HSCA concluded NO conspiracy. All of that is actually documented on the very wiki page WHICH YOU used as a source but of course you neglected to read it and simply lied as you always do.

    There are no cover ups and lies in the Warren Commission.

    I have asked multiple time for you to name one such lie or cover up and you cannot do so because you have no idea what they said.

    Until you do so you are lying and you know it.

    There is no such evidence sonny boy.

    Provide some evidence which you claim exists or stop lying.

    The ones beating a dead horse are the brainless ones who only watch a few you tube videos and ignore real evidence.

    Stop beating the horse and learn something you are proven wrong again
     
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    It has little to do with hindsight. Cuba was as close to the US in 1962 as it is now. It was communist then as it is now
     
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    And the US has always opposed Cuba (Obama notwithstanding) so I'm not sure what your point is. As I already said Kennedy okayed a CIA based invasion of Cuba but pulled his support when the quick victory from the CIA/Cuban army did not go according to plans and he (JFK) did not wish to seem like a war mongering imperialist. Do your homework.
    In the context of his assassination your quibbling seems pointless.
     
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    Much like the 9/11 theorists, your assignment of motive to the “planners” is unfathomably silly.

    Here is what you’re asking us to believe. General Alpha wants to go to war. Admiral Bravo wants to go to war. Vice President Johnson wants to go to war. What is stopping them is POTUS JFK. So they eliminate him. Once they do that, the floodgates are open and the nation goes to war to stop communism we’re told. Yet there is a communist bastion 90 miles from the coast of the US where missiles can be launched, where intel can be gathered, where the Soviets can do all sorts of things in the region. For some reason, Johnson, Bravo and Alpha all ignore it even though we have every possible advantage logistically, every possible advantage popularly, and every possible advantage militarily and focus on selling an obscure war 9,000 miles away in a place few had heard of and was, in no way, vital to our interests.

    I have questions too about the assassination of JFK. But if warmongers are behind its it’s strange we didn’t have more of a war after he was gone; especially given that we had such a convenient enemy right there.
     
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    What do you want me to do? Talk you out of an unreasonable hang up over a relatively minor detail? I can't do that and though there is ample evidence that the minute JFK was liquidated our Viet Nam policy shifted into high gear under Lyndon Johnson (which is very good empirical evidence of the motive for
    an undeniable coup d'etat) but go ahead and believe what you like. I don't care.

    If you think the warriors in the Pentagon and White House were "ignoring" Cuba because they didn't want to go after the little fish (Cuba) while they were also simultaneously going after the big fish (Communism in Indo-China) then be my guest. Perhaps they knew war anywhere would be a hard sell with the public
    (and they couldn't have been more right) and opening a war on two fronts would be suicidal in many ways but go ahead and think what you want.
     
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    For most people, the “big fish” was taking care of the threat 90 miles away instead of some place many can’t pronounce 9,000 miles away.
    Then again, most people are not conspiracy whack jobs.
     
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    No. For most people the threat of Cuba was contained after Kennedy made Khrushchev remove the Soviet missiles there
    and though it was an irritation it was a manageable one. But I guess you aren't like most people.
    Cuba was like two kids in a street fight compared to the all out brawl in Viet Nam.

    Nor are they clueless myopic clowns who can't seem to get settled historic fact through their impervious skulls.
    I'm not sure what point you are driving at but your petty nit picking gets you nowhere.
     
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    It is not settled historic fact that there was a conspiracy to kill kennedy.

    The conspiracy theories are in fact wacko fringe ideas.
     
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    Factually incorrect assessment.

    The "kill Kennedy because we wanted a war" scenario is pretty much the silliest scenario ever since we didn't invade Cuba. Since time immortal the one thing that all peoples have loved is easy victories when it comes to using the military and the one thing that all peoples have loathed is long military involvements; hence the protests in the late 1960's.
     

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