This Whole Gender Thing

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    Here's what I don't get about changing your gender identity. How do you "feel" like the other gender? Additionally, what does it mean to be a "man" or a "woman" if not we don't define it biologically? The only way gender can be described, that I can think of, without using biology, is by using gender stereotypes -- which the left is against. Please educate me on this topic.
     
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    I have no idea how or why someone feels the way they do in regards to changing their gender identity. It's something my brain will never comprehend. That being said, I couldn't give two s#!ts if someone wants to change their gender. As long as you're not breaking the law...do whatever the hell you like.
     
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    Biological sex isn't real either. Biological sex describes combinations of sex traits (chromosome type, genitalia, physical build, hormone levels) that typically cluster in two forms but have such numerous exceptions that it makes zero sense whatsoever to act like there's a single trait that can be called "sex".

    Gender is the social counterpart of the physical assemblage of sex traits. Gender is, essentially, the politics of sex traits. Gender is equally bullshit. Drop out of school and sell crack, kids, because the smarter you get the more you realize that everything you know is a lie.
     
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    Gender is a liberal construct designed to weaken the patriarchy and help destroy traditional concepts like the nuclear family. The creation of 'gender' and the minimized role of sex has worked to further decrease the traditional powers often associated with straight males. The most effective method to counter this absurdity is to ignore it...
     
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    And when exactly did liberals create the word 'gender'???
     
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    I agree that it's not a governmental issue -- there shouldn't be any laws preventing a change in gender identity or surgery facilitating that change. However, on a personal note, I can't find any logical consistency in the movement. I also find it very troubling that the left champions and encourages this activity, making it anti-PC to advocate for proper treatment over this mental health issue. If I came to a therapist about how I don't feel comfortable with my race, height, body-type, etc., I would learn how to feel comfortable with myself and accept myself. But if I say that I don't feel comfortable being a man, suddenly I'm encouraged to start calling myself a woman. About forty percent of the transgender community attempt suicide, and that rate is not going down with further acceptance.
     
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    You just listed testable, objective traits that exist among the genders and then proceeded to say that there's no such thing as gender. That makes zero sense.
     
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    Gender has been around for millions of years. Only recently has it been viewed as a subjective term rather than an objective one.
     
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    A "nuclear family" is a bunch of fake news the righties try to jamb down our throats while they practiced otherwise. Trump cheated on both of his wives, and Don Jr. the ever hypocrite standing on the soap box, "lectured" us all about "family values" all the while cheating on his wife behind her back. All the while the fake Christians say there is nothing to see here. It's no wonder young people these days are turned off by such "fakery" and more and more are turning away from the churches.
     
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    And what medical school did you get your degree from? Trump University don't count.
     
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    You didn't answer my question posed in the OP. How do you "feel" like a woman or man? If you're a woman and you feel more assertive, I wouldn't say that you're a man -- I'd just say you're an assertive woman. Only gender stereotypes can define gender outside biology, to my understanding. If I'm totally off base here, please enlighten me.
     
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    This 'gender' nonsense predates President Trump. Not sure what you are going on about, the context of this particular topic really has nothing to do with contemporary politicians. This is and has always been about manipulating the public through constructs that simply defy science, logic, and common sense...
     
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    Hardly, prior to these recent constructs people were identified by their biological sex. There may be exceptionally rare instances in history or isolated regions on the planet in which there are small variations, but in all instances it is limited and never wide spread...
     
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    What you asking me for? How would I know? My major isn't in psychology and the human brain is so complex even a brain surgeon would have a hard time figuring out exactly how things work. Your simplistic views and dismissal of this as being a mental health issue, is because you don't condone any of this. To put it simply, it is justification for your bias viewpoint.
     
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    Manipulating the public how? What do you think is the govts motive with all this? What is the govts ultimate goal here?
     
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    Gender used to be synonymous with biological sex, no?
     
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    Your understanding, and mine are unimportant in this as is anyones (Government included). As with abortion it not our concern or business and only ego explains otherwise.
     
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    So you are saying that many Americans are lemmings easily led and fooled by their leaders? I would disagreed with this out of hand, but then Trump got elected so....who knows :rolleyes:
     
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    So you don't know. Thanks. I'm legitimately just trying to figure out how one "feels" like a gender. I can't "feel" like I'm tall or "feel" like I'm Asian.
     
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    Disagree with the abortion piece, but I'm not going to derail this thread. I normally wouldn't pay attention to these sort of movements, but this one has grown exponentially, and I would like to understand the logic behind it (if there is any).
     
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    Indeed, liberals tend to be rubes and easily led astray from ideas that stem from hard science and logic (biological sex), and common sense (the nuclear family). Instead they enter a fantasy world in which a construct like gender can help them weaken their perceived enemies. Its ok, eventually the American people figure out that they were being led astray and will make the necessary corrections...
     
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    Not really, this whole 'gender' thing has been used to confuse what used to be commonly accepted. In the past one was male or female, this constructed gender idea is new and has gained rapid acceptance by a few very vocal groups, like feminists and the gays...
     
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    As opposed to conservatives easily led astray by an invisible man in the sky. I mean...come on now.
     
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    That's rather ignorant, anyone who believes in God would not limit His presence to merely the sky. However you cut it, I'd rather stake my claim with someone that says thou shall not steal, than to enter the Marxist realm that is based entirely on theft and murder, but to each their own I guess. Reap what you sow and all that...
     
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    No more ignorant than your sweeping generalization of liberals. See how that works? ;)
     

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