This Whole Gender Thing

Another word the left has tried to redefine to mean something else.

It used to be that sex was bumping uglies between the sheets, and gender meant either male or female. Now you got this whole subjective fashion statement stuff going on, where guys try to pretend to be girls.

It's bizarro world, to be sure.

 

Many cultures throughout history have had varying views of gender, hence why it seems like a construct. For example, some native American tribes recognized three genders. Regardless, as a libertarian, I would think that the answer would be . . . why care? Let people do their thing. Demanding justification isn't a very libertarian approach.

 

We care because it's been turned into a political tool turning our toilets and sports teams into gender free zones, and turning kids into angry '*****.

 

When did gender ever mean exclusively male or female.
You should be able to provide some proof.

 

You can't get much more snowflakey than complaining about how private owners allocate the usage of their own toilets. It amazes me how the right, who once rightfully ridiculed the left for entitlement and victimhood mentality, has so come to embody entitlement and victimhood mentality.

 

Just go to the bathroom that makes you feel you can relieve yourself.

 

That's not proof

Why?

I'm not doing research to back up your claims. That's your job

I never said that people are depressed for "no reason". Your response is premised on a straw man. Not only that, it's incorrect because chemical imbalances by themselves can cause depression.

Material and intellectual resources can be allocated towards both issues. It's not one or the other as you are falsely claiming. The world is not black and white like that.

Now you're just making **** up

 

If anybody tries that when my daughter is in there and they will transition into a punching bag.

 

Try initiating physical violence against a non-threat and be prepared to face justified legal repercussions.

 

My previous post has all the answers you're looking for. Somehow I doubt you read the link

 

and now we see how it has become politicized.

Sorry, but I'm old school. Put me in prison if you want, but some things just don't go.

 

Physically attacking someone who poses no physical threat is not "political." It is thuggery and will justifiably be put down.

If you break the law and initiate physical violence, sure. That's what laws are for. If you don't get that, you are far, far more of a threat than any of the people you are criticizing.

I agree. Initiating violence "just don't go." The law will put an end to it if they see it. As a CCW holder, I will gladly help, if necessary, if no law enforcement is immediately available. If you value your social norms more than basic human values and basic public safety, reassess your values. Because, if so, you are far more messed up than any trans person.

 

oh, you posted a link?

See, you need to actually explain this stuff. Not just post links.

Try again?

 

Ordinarily, I'm against the initiation of violence. But when we're talking about my daughter taking a dump, and some guy wants to walk in there to pull his willy out, he's going to be hurt.

That's just how that goes.

 

If he's doing it another stall. Not approaching your daughter. On property where he is allowed to do so and posing no threat, you are in the wrong here, and a violent response from either law enforcement or first responders is appropriate to whatever illegal violence you are initiating due to your insecurities in this situation. Initiating violence is morally and legally wrong. That's "just how that goes."

 

Well, that's why this isn't just about staying out of bedrooms and personal lives. If lady boys wanted that, they'd wait to take a dump when they are home. By demanding that their psychological malady be accepted by society and law enforcement, then they turned it political.

 

By demanding that private businesses kick them out for your comfort, you are the one turning it political. If you were just concerned about your personal life, you'd save it for home.

 

I don't care what privately owned businesses do. If they want to kick gays out of their establishment, then kick them out. but what about that owner of a bakery who didn't want to bake a wedding cake for a gay marriage?

and if they want to have a little girl's room, then they should have the right to only allow little girls in.

see, you're ignoring all of that because you want it political. You don't really care about private businesses and small government. You want guys to be able to demand to take a dump in any restroom they want because that is catering to freaks who should be wearing pants instead of dresses, and being men married to women and having lots of children, instead of nothings who have no families and no sense of respect or responsibility to society for maintaining societal standards.

 

I’m not going back through the thread to find a link that I posted and repost it for you just because you’re too lazy to go back and look for it. If you’re going to interject into a conversation I’m having with someone else, you should at least read the entire conversation so you understand the context in which it’s taking place. Had you done that, you would know exactly what link I was referring to.

 

Apparently you do, since you are so invested in their bathroom policies.

Yes. And if they want to let trans people use the bathroom of their choice, then let them. It is funny how when it is something that you agree with, you say they should do as they please, but when it is something you disagree with . . .

What about them?

If that's their policy, that's their policy. That's what I'm saying. Let the owners of the bathroom decide. It is their property.

The first part I "ignored" because it is off topic. If you had bothered to ask me my opinion on that subject, I could have told you. As I've said before, that decision should have been left to the bakers. As for the second part, I didn't ignore it. I've been saying it all along: their bathroom, their rules.

You apparently don't really care about the facts. But if you'd rather debate imaginary forumites and charge at windmills, go straight ahead.

No, I want the owners of bathrooms to decide the policies that govern their bathrooms. It is basic property rights. But there you go again: inventing imaginary debate partners because straw men are easier.

Complains about "politicizing," but freaks out over "societal standards." Got it. You do realize you are adopting the same argument the far left has bandied about for decades, right? The so-called "right to not be offended." Pro-tip: it doesn't exist. There is no such right. And I don't give two shits about societal standards. I'm not a social conservative. If you aren't hurting anyone, I don't care what you wear. Nor do I understand why someone would be so invested in controlling others that they would care what they wear. I'm willing to bet you don't care about the "societal standards" of The Castro District and would rather have your social norms trump theirs, so please stop pretending this is about societal norms. Psst, some people are going to wear clothes you don't like. Some are not going to have children the way that you would like to demand they have children, whether they are gay or straight. Who cares? How about that old, actually useful societal norm of individualism and people doing what they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone else? I quite like that one.

 

Then we have no disagreements.

 

100 years ago the word gay meant happy. Not sure what your point is...

 

Not sure what your point is either.

 

I apologize, I had no intention of adding your quote to that, I was going to respond to you but didn't and forgot to remove your quote from what I did respond to...

 

Oh god, no worries. You don’t have to apologize. It’s all good.