"This will Stop if Hamas Surrenders"... Really?

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  1. dairyair

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    Are you saying you're not to young to remember? But too old?
     
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    But there doesn't have to be. And given the problems, should not be.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The UN established a two state solution in 1947. The Arabs are at fault.
     
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    How do you think Israel will respond to the latest proposal from Gaza?
     
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    ?? Netanyahu is opposed to a two state solution, as he has stated many times.

    The increased rate of bulldozing homes and orchards and stealing land in West Bank is crystal clear evidence that he believes in ethnic cleansing, NOT in a two state solution.

    His approach in Gaza is just more of that Zionism - genocide followed by Jewish settlements. One would have to assume the settlements would grow to encompass all Gaza - as that is the Israeli methodology in West Bank.
     
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    A two state solution is impossible today. The viable option is governance by Gazan civilians with security provided by Israel.

    The West Bank is governed by the PA with Israel providing security. Both Israeli and Lebanese civilians have established settlements in the West Bank. If you consider settlements to be illegal (tgey are not) it goes both ways.
     
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    The war against Hamas in Gaza is over.
     
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    Probably reject it, unless of course it's a surrender.
     
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    Yes. Israel would be crazy to accept any proposal from Hamas other than unconditional surrender. U. S. Netanyahu.
     
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    700 million/year is nothing- We are giving 100 Billion / year to the freedom fighters in Ukraine .. we should be giving an equivalent amount to those fighting for freedom in Palestine .. fighting against the Nazi Occupation.
     
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    LOL.
     
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    The Arabs have been attempting to destroy the UN two state solution since 1948.
     
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    Since you are talking about made up fantasies which aren't real... My fantasy is to have a three way with Scarlett Johansson and Charlize Theron.
     
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    That's not correct.
    Both were set on destroying the solution. But on each side it was religious radicals that halted the 2 state solution.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/two-state-solution
     
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    It’s absolutely correct. Five Arab nations attacked the newly formed nation of Israel in 1948.
     
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    LOL. What 2 state plan was there in 1948?
     
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    The 1947 United Nations partition plan.
     
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    Yea....a lot of things change in 80~ years
    That's probably why they don't have a country yet, they think we can just roll back time, smart ppl would declare independence on what they DO have and BUY what they need.
     
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    Sure thing....
    Your opinion is so important to us we'll start to immigrate right now ok ?
     
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    If you go that far than it was the Ottomans that "stole" their own land and gave it to Jewish Zionists, the "West" or UN at the time only acknowledged what the Zionists created, not "stole" - or else be specific, what area was "stolen" and from who.
     
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    EVERYONE is living on "stolen land". It's such a stupid argument.
     
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    My fantasy is that Palestinians denounce terror like the IRA did and sit down and work with Israel and Jordan and create an independent terrorist free state.
     
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    I should point out to USVET that and I hope I am wrong, the US by back channels has made it clear to Iran they will not look the other way in Lebanon.

    I am worried with the change of governments in France and Britain, they might turn isolationist and not continue their alliance with the US against Iran. I am also sick and tired of India's Prime Minister trying to suck up to Russia which supports Iran and the Houthis as if Putin will stop the threat to Indian merchant ships. India needs to get off its ass and join a naval coalition with the US, France, and Britain against the Houthis and Iran.

    For that matter I loudly criticize my own country for not spending enough on its military so it can send a proper amount of naval vessels in this regard.

    The distraction of the Houthis and Hezbollah causing chaos are deliberate tactics by Putin and China who all benefit from reallocation of naval forces to that area and out of Europe or the South China Seas.
     
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    Gilos whatever happens Israel will finish what it started in Gaza and if need be in Lebanon. It has no choice.
     
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    Speak for yourself.

    Indigenous populations (yours truly) don't live on stolen land. Only thieves live on stolen land.

    The Beast man.

    Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death.
     
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