This won't take away our joy': North Carolina wedding venue denies gay couple marriage

Matthew 5:32

But go ahead and tell me Jesus didn't actually mean that and what he meant was...

 

Okay...... then sexual immorality would be one major exception. Now I would like you to turn to Romans 7....that is uless you are one to pick and choose from what the Bible teaches. Look at verse 2. Do you see that if a husband dies, she is released? Paul didn't address when the wife dies because common knowledge of the time said the husband was free to remarry. Now we could research a little further and find that abandonment or abuse are other considerations.

I think you would also do well to study Ephesians 5. It talks more about the purpose of marriage. Do you think the reference always to "Husbands and Wives" is anything substantial? I'm just trying to help you since we do know you have a Bible. Do you see anything about Wives and wives or husbands and husbands? Now if you'll turn to Genesis (1st book of the Bible) pay attention to Chapters 2 & 3. It tells you all about Adam and Eve......nowhere does it say "Adam and Steve".

We can do more of this another time if you'd like.

 

I looked at genesis and saw a story about a talking snake. Really scary stuff!

Shouldn't we determine if a couple is getting divorced due to abuse? Because we are potentially enabling sin if we don't ask why they are getting a divorce.

 

Why do you even bring the Bible or sin up? It's all a joke to you. I find a lot of mockers do that.

 

That is the MO it seems for many on that side. Look at all the crap they put masterpiece cake shop through.

 

I know that on another place similar to this when I wrote basically what you did it was deleted as a TOS violation. Your expectations are sadly quite real.

 

Twitter and you tube certainly are and so is media bias fact check.

 

pets can't consent, I know republicans want to marry their pets, but consent is needed

don't tell me the wedding venue can't become members only if they want to discriminate so bad

 

in support of same gender marriage (per the bible it is better to marry then burn with passion)

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians 7:8-9&version=NIV

"
8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am.
9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
"

 

if the Christian is dishonest and lies, they can get away with it - doesn't make it any more legal, just means they get away with it

 

what does any of that have to do with private property laws?

 

you were talking about "private thought" not property laws?

 

No, I wasn't. You suggested that private intentions matter (legally). I asked how those intentions could be known.

It's another way of saying it's irrelevant.

 

If it is a private club, then they are licensed differently.

 

Homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom.

 

Oh really, where does this happen on either platforms.

 

It's not a joke to me. I grew up in a very religious household and the core beliefs are engrained in me. What I do lament is how some members of the Church have become hell bent on alienating other people instead of accepting them while ignoring the sins of others in the church. It's not like the venue is performing the sacrament.

The couple is still getting married no matter what, so why not accept your fellow human beings?

 

I don't have to imagine. Businesses are required to be ADA compliant. Their hiring practices must be compliant with the Equal Opportunity Act. While the sign says they may refuse service to anyone, that does not protect them from federal anti-discrimination laws.

 

well, no. The law quite specifically precludes them from doing so.

lol, no. If a business refuses service to someone on the basis of any of what I mentioned, they are in violation of the law and will be prosecuted.

 

This whole thing is just one more instance of how Congress could fix a problem but choose not to.
Make everyone get a civil union that takes care of all legal issues. No difference between straight, gay, lesbian, trans, whatever as far as the law would be concerned.
Make marriage a religious/personal ceremony that means nothing to the law and people can support it or not. If a church, bakery, etc., wants to be haters, then let them (and let everyone know about them).

 

I accept my fellow human beings. They are all precious in the eyes of God. They have choices to make. Devaluing an institution that is a foreshadow of Christ and His bride the Church, is a behavior Christians cannot accept. What you describe is only "marriage" of a contemporary meaning. Not a Biblical one. I don't consider myself "religious" which might entail following "mans design". I walk by Faith in that I do my best to listen to God's Word and His desires.

 

they do, that is why cops often remain silent vs telling their thoughts during the alleged crime - your intentions behind a crime, matter

 

You're still not grasping the basics. Private enterprise is conducted upon/within PRIVATE PROPERTY, so private property laws supersede all other laws when it comes to who can enter etc. It's very simple. The owner or representative can refuse entry and/or service to anyone, at any time, for any reason. That is your right, and my right, and the right of every private property owner or tenant. It makes no difference whether enterprise is conducted from that property, or not. The enterprise part of it becomes irrelevant in the face of that 'where the buck stops' law.

 

They cannot possibly matter, when they can not possibly be known. What you're suggesting is an absurdity.

 

I have already provide a link to the legal requirements for businesses that are open to the public.