Time to Get Out of Afghanistan

Glad to hear that Mandelus.

You and I will never agree on 9/11. I continue to view 9/11 as the "catastrophic and catalysing event like a new Pearl Harbour" and "the opportunity of ages" of PNAC.

Besides that I do agree with you that America and its neocon elite has exhibited incredible hubris and arrogance in Afghanistan - but spending vast sums on the US defence and intelligence sector is one of the things that underpins the US economy. It's madness.

 

Trump wants to use Israel as his example. A fence with electric, sensors, and border patrol is what Israel uses and it works.
3 layers of fencing are certainly cheaper, even with electric and sensors which are not installed in San Diego.

 

Blinkered by what should be but what isn't.

Continue enjoying the view!

 

So now you're saying he wants to build a fence?

 

It is the truth ... please wake up! The ME was and is full of terror groups like ISIS, Al Qaeda, HAMAS, Hezbollah ... only to name the larger / main ones! And the bad thing is that they exist is in large parts the direct and indirect guilt of the USA too. Look ...
Hezbollah, HAMAS and also in the past the PLO exist why? Because of Israel and the USA is supporting Israel and so the US is also their enemy! The problem with the US support for Israel is that the US gives Israel a wild card to do what they want ... and Israel does bad things which the US would never allow anyone else in the world to do without consequences. And this is the main reason for the hate of the US and then later to the allies of the US too.
The story of Al Qaeda is wellknown and I must not repeat it here ... but before the USA made their criminal and illegal attack on the bastard Saddam, there was no Al Qaeda and also no ISIS (which was before a wing inside Al Qaeda) in Iraq existing.

In Africa it is the same at least ... look on Lybia and before this bastard Ghadafi was thrown off from power and at least killed, there was no terror group in this country (Ok, he supported terrorists of course, but this is another story) ... but when the US and more their puppets like Qatar support everyone in Lybia who declares to fight Ghadafi without questioning who they are ... then were suddenly terrorists supported!
But in general there are others like Boko Haram in action too

 

No, he wants to build a wall and uses Israel's wall as an example of a wall being 99.9% effective. Another fabrication by the base's president since Israel's wall is only 3.3% of their border security, and Trump knows this. The remainder is a fence with electric, sensors, and patrols which work to deter smugglers, terrorists, and anyone else.
The wall and the shutdown should not go hand in hand. It is a travesty and typical of Trump. If he got off the wall and floated a fence, he
would also have an agreement. Unfortunately, Trump's personality disorder is once again in the way of his brains.

 

If Trump called it a fence or a welcome mat for illegals Pelosi and gang would still not give it to him since they are hell bent to prevent him from having a win of any kind. Pelosi pisses away that much money when she steers contracts to her husband.

 

Probably the wrong thread to ask this, but did a plane hit the pentagon or not...I always thought not...
a brief answer would sufice...

 

Pull out. Nuke Kabul: Warn the Saudi’s: Riyadh next.

To end the war, stop attacking terrorism, and instead start destroying, militarily and politically, the two Islamic nations responsible for it all: Saudi Arabia and Iran.

 

Since the beginning Trump calls it a wall again and again ... now suddenly only a fence? Rediculous!
And they are doing well to hinder and prevent this jerk Trump to do such a bullcrap like this useless, superfluous and pointless wall.

 

Don't go all soft on us for gawd's sake. Nuke the whole world -- and then retreat to a nuclear bunker in Idaho and eat preserved herrings for ever after.

 

Brief Counter Question ... if it was not the Boing which hit the Pentagon, what was it then whioch caused the huge destructions and fuel fire? If you can name a working alternative, please tell me

 

I was only going on the small hole in the wall of the pentagon and pictures of the scene which, from memory, didnt show any plane parts (ie wings or tail) ...were they all destroyed by the impact...but I wouldnt know, Ive never looked into any conspiracy theories....

 

Sorry, that is false. Pelosi wants border security but not a huge, wasteful wall and she favors a fence.

 

Alternative proposal:

In the US, listen to terrorists consciously or unconsciously ... unconsciously, because you do not give a **** about who it is, chiefly it fights against your current enemy, like in Syria or Libya.
Stop giving Israel a wild card and closing your eyes to what Israel is supposedly doing in terms of bad things as a fight against terror ... stuff that you do not allow to any other country and, above all, countries that are not your friend would be without consequences for it!
Stop interfering in the internal affairs of other countries ... especially stop supporting bastards of dictators in oppressing the people if they just want to have the same democratic rights as you!

Do that, and the situation will improve a lot!

 

Please use Google alone and you will find out that this small hole was the exit hole at an inner ring and about plane parts you will find enough pictures too, for example of a big landing gear.
The real impact area, before it collapsed later, fits 1:1 like a finger print for a Boing 757 in size and look ... it is like this:

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And this is looking like a plane from behind or from the front, wing-fuselage-wing,

 

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Like those in Hiroshima:

 

Is our government made up of only POTUS? Of course not.

In fact, by one count there are 100 or more dual citizens in either elected or appointed positions in the federal government. I'm not talking about religious preferences, I'm talking about citizenship. Dual citizenship.

Imagine a situation in which a dual citizen is forced to choose to which country he will be loyal when making any given decision as part of his job. Is it a good idea to have that situation?

In fact, allowing dual citizenship in government officials, elected or appointed, is foolish and inviting disaster. Australia does not allow it.

 

None of those people are commander in chief. Only the president is that.

 

Perhaps you could point where I said something that isn't.

 

Actually you are wrong. Bolton is not president and doesn't command the military.

 

Can you tell me something I don't know please?

Your dodging tells me I've made my point--you refuse to address it. Stating the obvious suggests you too think allowing dual citizens to be in elected or appointed positions in government is a foolish and dangerous policy. You're welcome.

 

No he is not POTUS. But he just reversed POTUS decision.

Who is in touch with reality here?

 

Enjoy a happy Leukemia with the ever-lasting herrings then - just as they still do in Hiroshima and Nagasaki...

 

Irony isn't your thing is it. Nor is actual reality as Eleuthera was kind enough to point out to you.