To what degree could aliens prevent nuclear war?

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Are technologically advanced aliens involved in human events, history or evolution?

  1. No... this idea is ridiculous!

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  2. Yes.... I know of reliable people who saw a UFO.

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  3. Maybe...... I can't rule out the possibility.

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  4. I personally have observed what I thought was a UFO.

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  5. I am not sure, but this topic is fascinating to me! I am looking into this!

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  6. I work for the NSA - CIA and I know that i know that advanced aliens are real.

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  1. Pollycy

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    If other intelligent beings are found to inhabit the universe, the effect on human beings will be greater than anything else that has happened in the history of mankind. I know that there have been some very, very compelling stories through the years, and from some very credible sources, too. But for something as enormously important as this kind of revelation would be, I would expect to have tangible PROOF. The proof should be good enough to meet the requirements and criteria of a serious court-of-law. Anything else would risk trivializing the whole issue.

    Could, or would "aliens" stop a nuclear war on Earth? I'm less convinced that they would. They didn't stop any of our conventional wars, which have killed many millions upon millions of people through our history, and, aliens didn't prevent the United States from dropping two atomic bombs on Japan. Draw your own conclusions from that... then, join me in waiting for PROOF before making up your mind about any of this.
     
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    I've seen a UFO up close and personal (less than 200 feet) and still can't say for sure that it was Aliens. It was BIG, it was silent, it was low and sweeping the ground with a search light. It went right over me without making a sound or making the least bit of breaker. It was roughly triangular and I got a very good look at it from right underneath it from the front as it approached and the rear as it passed. I know of no man made craft that would look or move like this and I was not under the influence of any drug. All that you could say is that it was unidentified.

    If I wished to believe that it was of alien origins I still can't say whether they were friendly, adversarial or just don't care about us. If Aliens want to prevent us from using nuclear weapons it may be so they will get a cleaner world when they take it from us instead of any altruistic urges. I would like to think that as a species grew in technological abilities that they would also grow into more gentle philosophical mental paths but so far in our species that has not been the case.

    The thing is, if there were Aliens here and they were of an altruistic leaning I think that they would be open and we would know about them. What would be gained by decades or centuries of hide and seek? Some believe that they were all over the place in the distant past teaching helping or in some cases fighting. Where are they now? Why or when did they get so shy?

    Why was everything so different in the past? All of the major religions had God, Gods or God's representatives running all over the place talking to people and doing miraculous things and then...poof they either died of left because at least in the case of the Jewish/Christian faith nothing of merit has been said or done now in 2000 years. Where did all the Aliens and Gods go to and why don't they want to talk to us any more? It seems that all we have on this sort of thing is questions and questions about questions. ???????
     
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    I personally believe that they have made themselves quite available but Steven Greer Ph. D. believes that the governments of the world want to hide their existence because once the existence of aliens is common knowledge...... there is no way that the BigOil companies will be able to keep us confined to internal combustion engines.
     
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    I suspect that if they have the ability to get here from another sun in some way that they could make themselves known without consulting all of the many government agencies. To me, whether they were friendly or inimical, they wouldn't limit their contact to secretive government approved contact only. If they were friendly, why not just land in a large field and say some version of "Take me to your leader." If they wanted to cause problems that would be pretty easy and they wouldn't need nor want government approval.

    The only thing that I can imagine is that for some reason they want to limit their contact with us. I don't think very highly of our various governments and doubt that they could keep secret a full contact with aliens. I'm at a bit of a quandary about what exactly I believe. SOMETHING is happening. I've seen things and that makes it tough for a skeptical sort of person like me.

    If they were as interested in us as some would believe they were in the past then what happened to make them now act in such a coy fashion? Unfortunately it seems that at this time all we have are questions, guesses and opinions and very few iron clad facts. In the end if I needed to make a guess I think that we have someone checking us out. I lean towards visitors from other universes or times more than aliens from other suns. But who knows???
     
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    I am not a writer but I was getting into so many topics somewhat like this that
    I had to do up a blog that would explain the basis of what I believe.

    I believe that the most powerful aliens would be extra-dimensional rather than
    extra-terrestrial.

    www.CarbonBias.BlogSpot.ca/
     
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    Yes, of course they're real and they've been coming here for a long time. Human Terminal Cancer Tumours are by far the most superior fuel they've ever found for their ships.

    And the ironic cure for all those cancers is right under our noses. It's only produced in the brains of baby Harp Seals as they are being clubbed to death, of course, and its potency as a cure is directly proportional to the size of the baby seal's eyes.

    Seriously? I dunno, maybe. Any starfaring race would be so far beyond us that they would be easily able to escape our detection, so we'd never be able to know, and they would also be easily capable of squashing us like cockroaches, which we might just be to them, so maybe it's best we don't find out.

    Best we can hope for is it's like Star Trek. They don't believe in destroying primitives by exposing themselves to us so they watch and wait, hopefully keeping us from killing ourselves. Thing is, we've never yet done that with any primitives we've come across, though there have been some very half-hearted and totally ineffectual attempts made to do so very recently, we usually just kill them, whether we try not to or not
     
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    Finally Alex, after all this time. Well put.
     
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    What do you think of this analysis of this question?




    Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data. (Part 2)

     
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    That is exactly what I believe as well!
     
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    An astonishingly well informed poster on this forum
    confirms much of these ideas.

    Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data. (Part 2)

    (post #75)....


     
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    Here is how sensitive this information is.

    Stephen Greer Ph. D. believes the USA government cannot release what it knows about
    UFO's because an informed population would not long settle for the internal combustion
    engine but would demand much, much better and cleaner technology.



    Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data. (Part 2)


     
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    The implications of this are pretty heavy:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-t-data-part-2.411555/page-5#post-1065101706


     
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    Ours probably lives in the middle of The Milky Way.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And I so thank you for this other excellent article on this topic
    that you just gave me in another discussion:


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...-nuclear-missiles-say-US-military-pilots.html
     
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    Dennis this is an interesting subject. Having studied the possibilities of extraterrestrials having involvement with humanity for over 40 years, as well as tried to interact with humans to assure our survival and evolution, I'm getting close to a conclusion based on experience.

    They are involved on all levels. Physical and spiritual, relating to the collective unconscious mind.

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    Proof of our unconscious existence as the temporally dominant existence we know. Unanswered.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ejects-science.504627/page-45#post-1067521990

    Another post with the same proof, unanswered.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ejects-science.504627/page-46#post-1067524326

    Censorship on an image protecting a member from my ridicule of them for failing to answer.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ejects-science.504627/page-46#post-1067525309
    The censored image. Curiously, on a numerological coincidence(?) this is post 911 in that thread and I address two posters. Are they Twins, are they the same?
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    Basically we have a strange aversion to recognizing the unconscious mind, NOW. WHY?
    A thousand years ago a major portion of the earthly populations used the unconscious mind every day consciously and thought it was normal. That was before crusades that used genocide upon any peoples who used or even recognized the human unconscious existence. Is it genetic memory, epigenetics that make those posters afraid to respond to the FACT that the human mind IS the first tool of science? Or, something else?

    My take on alien influence is that extraterrestrials are allowed to influence earthen societies by the introduction of knowledge, or fear of knowledge, but are not allowed in the collective conscious (media) to determine our uses of the knowledge or fear of it. The whole point of the influence is to determine our decision making processes and see where it leads us.

    To provide an example that relates to yourself, I would point out this.

    http://algoxy.com/law/lawfulpeacefulrevolution.html

    And its concept of using constitutional law to protect rights and freedoms which the law basically guarantees, IF the people will unify in its use. By using that law we could stop any use of nuclear weapons. We could protect all unalienable rights and secure a quality environment free of toxins with a naturally pure atmosphere. You could explain why you are not promoting the use of that law as I am and that might explain part of how aliens are influencing our unconscious minds.

    All posters here and elsewhere have given up trying to prove that the use of that law will not work as I point out it is designed to work. I've basically shut down 3 tea party forums by trying to get conservatives to support that law that their label (poorly) indicates they exist to promote and preserve. Instead it became and effective way to expose agents of cognitive infiltrations. Those forums were; dailypaul.com, patriotaction.net, teapartynation.com. A forth that I joined with minimal activity tried to use activity at the others to label me, but it backfired and I proved they were an agency of an element (cognitive infiltrators) that has collectively been following my work trying to stop me. I'll have a page with specific text at some point proving this. I was banned for repeatedly pointing out how the admin there who screwed up and posted info that was only available to people copying my posts as text and saving them BEFORE I joined the forum and sent a message in an email which I took a screen shot of. It was the image that appeared whenever trying to access the forum at all.

    It might be censored because it has profanity in it. Chances are it will be removed. Will the image censored reposted above, an innocuous image of a mammal be censored again?
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    That is credible, but there could be another aspect related to the conspiracy successfully prosecuted in a California court in perhaps 1935 or so.

    A lawsuit was filed regarding the purchase and then shutting down of all the small rail and trolleys in the Los Angeles area. The defendants were oil companies, auto manufacturers, tire makers and battery makers.

    Then we see what has happened in the middle east regarding oil. Then then the pollution.

    It would appear that something in the collective unconscious mind is exploiting the potentials for profit to indulge in massive economic power with its various benefits at the expense of all life on the planet.

    There is an indigenous concept called "wetiko" or "windingo" that has been focused upon by a few researchers.

    Here are a few excerpts from a pioneer in understanding wetiko.

    (A)"There is no wetiko disease that only exists in one individual."

    (B)"Wetiko exists in the 'in-between' place in which we are all inseparably interconnected.

    (C) "Wetiko is something that we are potentially participating in and are actively co-creating with each other in each and every moment."

    Perhaps the above create an idea of the general concept as working knowledge.

    I can build on those with perhaps more succinct knowledge of science and psychology that is relative.

    The concept of (A) refers to a collective unconscious. For comprehensiveness, and separation, because there is a lot of "new age" exploitation of ancient spiritual knowledge, the term "collective consciousness" is the total of waking state knowledge that we share or can share.

    An important aspect to relate at this point is that media does not share the truth for a reason. Wetiko protects itself within the events of (C). If it were to do that the conflict/opposition would decrease rather than increase.

    There is a relatively new science in genetics called "epigenetics". It basically is a way to account for changes in the active genes producing cells. Because of conditions an organism is subjected to? Some genes are activated for cell production and others are deactivated.

    When a person works mentally with specific intention in a waking state for 18 months or more, great numbers of genes are switched off and on, changing the person physically to degrees, but much more mentally. They operate with different brain cells than they did before because of their intention and mental focus.

    Here is a link and another perspective.

    http://www.gatheringspot.net

    "Just as someone infected with the rabies virus will resist drinking water, which would flush out the infection, someone taken over by the wetiko parasite will have nothing to do with anything that will help them get rid of the disease. Wetikos are phobic towards the light of truth, which they avoid like the plague. In advanced stages"


    "When a group of people are in agreement about anything, whether it is true or not, their alignment with each other exerts a contagious, magnetic field-of-force which can sway and attract the unaware into itself."


    The possibility that an existing virus in the human collective is either the subject of study by aliens adept at traversing our collective unconscious, OR there are two alien forms. One induces wetiko, the other tries to counter it or simply studies it.

    The fact of the crusades and conversion of human societies using the unconscious mind in keeping oral histories as well as organizing their society generally with use of the unconscious mind to human societies keeping the past in the written word has greatly enabled the wetiko.
     
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    Wow!!!!!

    What you wrote here sure fits with another discussion that I have going.........


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ake-such-claims.453165/page-2#post-1067543521



     
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    Wow!!!!

    I am thinking though that it may be wise to lower the bar.........
    and instead of going after nuclear war.........
    maybe we should concentrate on health and longevity..........

    Canadians, Israelis, Americans and pretty much every other English language
    writer can agree that health combined with longevity is an important topic for us to
    focus attention and volunteerism time and effort on............


    http://www.thesanhedrin.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1139&sid=44cbfdfdff2c4273d4b8926dc9646c0f
     
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    It does, but inversely. There are other inverted aspects too which create a disturbing scenario regarding human behavior, decision making and longevity.

    The dynamics are most disturbing.

    1) We have 60+ doctors with cancer cures dying under questionable circumstance.

    2) We have factions structuring conflicts to create reason to construct nuclear weapons, then supporting the spread of electrical generation using nuclear power plants which specifically produce fissionable material for nuclear weapons.

    3) We have global free trade using mass quantities of petroleum to move resources from one country into many others polluting or destroying the vital natural elements of the environment.

    The factions controlling 2) & 3) are the same ones who prosecuted the crusades removing awareness globally of our unconscious existence. With the development of 1) it is seen that terminal widespread disease of humanity may be a goal with permanent destruction of the environment.

    All enabled by the removal of human society which is aware and accepting of the human unconscious existence with an ability to work with it, or observe what is called wetiko and perhaps counter it.
     
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    This near death experiencer was shown about the predatory aliens that
    AboveAlpha refers to...... This is not such a nice and fun video....

     

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