Today they were forced to admit that Covid 19 does not exist

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Pretty disturbing.. I suppose the rest of the nations of the world, or at least an FOIA request to the CDC and or NIH in the United States should also be launched to find this kind of documentation.
     
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    I'll bet if someone tried hard enough they could find a group that believes the world is flat.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Several people have been writing about a lack of evidence of the virus having been isolated in a lab, especially Jon Rappaport.

    Apparently a similar FOIA type request has been made in Canada too, with similar results. No evidence in the records.

    It is an interesting situation. All this harm "caused" by a virus that nobody has isolated.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    LOL, well if this information is true and accurate, it seems we've seen a world full of people who believes in what appears to be a sort of phantom virus.

    When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts, according to CIA head.

    Is this a tremendous display of the American people believing what they've been told by greedy leaders?
     
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    I don't trust much of mainstream media or any government, but I don't understand the purpose of making up a virus. If true, that means the vaccine is not really what they are claiming it is. Then, what is it?

    What is the purpose of scaring people and shutting down the entire world?
     
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    They exist, and there is probably considerable overlap between the two groups. They are equally divorced from reality, it's just that this group is more dangerous than the flat earthers.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Most humans have ulterior motives, and that would certainly include the men and women of the World Economic Forum that meets in Davos, Switzerland every year.

    With the luxury of 10 months worth of hindsight, we know that there is ample evidence, no doubt, that the rich have indeed become richer and the poor have become poorer, as a direct result of government edicts responding to this engineered virus that nobody seems to be able to isolate in a Petri dish.

    The purpose of scaring people and shutting down the economy may not be obvious to you or me, but may we are not rich enough.

    I certainly don't know the answers, but if it's true that nobody can isolate it, perhaps that is a characteristic of its having been engineered for gain of function.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you're accusing the Irish government health service of lying?
     
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    I have no evidence that the Irish government's health service has said any such thing. But, yes, if they have said this, they are lying. The virus has been isolated. Several times.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Likely you did not watch the video. The FOIA request specified an isolated virus, NOT one grown on monkey kidneys or other tissue.

    I guess there is no way in hell you would ever consider that your own government or its agencies is lying to you? Despite what was learned during the Pentagon Papers days and the much more recent Afghanistan Papers.

    Other governments would lie, but your own would not, eh? :roflol:
     
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    Did they though? All you linked was a video of a random person talking in front of an anonymous building, waving some bits of paper around. Freedom of Information requests are (unsurprisingly) published so should be available to read (in full, not selected excerpts).

    Secondly, just because one organisation doesn't hold the records doesn't mean the records don't exist and certainly doesn't mean nobody has evidence of the virus being isolated. Lots of different organisations, public and private, all around the world, have isolated the virus for research, testing and vaccine development. A few examples found after a brief random search;

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-f...ccines-currently-in-development-idUSKBN28E2SB
    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/proof_that_sars_cov_2_has_been_i
    https://jvi.asm.org/content/94/11/e00543-20
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/grows-virus-cell-culture.html
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971220303428
     
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    I watched the easily debunked video, which does not establish the claims made your OP, and provided evidence debunking it.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I am as skeptical of the CDC as I am of its Canadian or Irish or British counterpart.

    So maybe the gal in the video is making it all up? Maybe Anthony Fauci is making it all up too?
     
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    The video is back from November and has been repeatedly debunked. But some people value their unhinged conspiracy theories more than the health and safety of their fellow Americans. No surprise.
     
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    Trump would lie, no doubt about that, but we have more than just Trump confirming it
     
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    Gal in the video is backed by: Literally nothing. Not a single thing.
    Fauci: Backed up by scientific research all over the globe (which I fell the need to point out is round).
     
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    The other possibility is that the gal in the video is speaking the truth, and that the Irish health services are unable to find any evidence of the virus having been isolated.

    Growing in a monkey's kidney tissue is not the same as growing in human tissue or alone in a Petri dish.
     
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    Since the virus has been isolated several times, no, that isn't a "possibility." It wasn't made up by the Sasquatch illuminati.

    Please educate yourself and stop spreading misinformation that is getting people killed.
     
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    Your scepticism is worth less than nothing. The CDC is only one of the links I picked out and they're only a selection of all the references to different organisations isolating the SARS-COV-2 virus. Your accusations would require all or them to be lying without any of them ever being found out.

    I suspect the lady in the video is accurately quoting part of the FOI response they received but the interpretation being spun from that is totally irrational and unjustified. Again, even if one organisation isn't holding the evidence themselves doesn't mean the evidence doesn't exist anywhere at all.
     
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    If the virus has been isolated several times, why is it so well hidden?

    If CDC has nothing to hide, why is it hiding so much? Why can't ordinary scientists find any?
     
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    I read several of your links. Some specifically mentioned isolating them in monkey tissue.

    Why won't the virus grow by itself in a Petri dish? Why is there none with the virus having been grown in human tissue?
     
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    It isn't "hidden." It's public information. I've provided you with some of it, which you obviously refuse to read.

    They aren't hiding anything and several scientists have isolated the virus. Please, for the love of God, read. Try fact checking your dangerous conspiracy theory links before posting. Attempt a sliver of research. At least TRY to look up this information. Just because your favorite fringe conspiracy theory sites aren't posting it doesn't mean it is "hidden."
     
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    The tissue that the virus grows on has nothing to do with whether or not the virus has been isolated. A virus that is isolated on animal tissue is still a real virus and has, indeed, been isolated.

    Also, Petri dishes are primarily for bacterial and fungal research. They aren't often used in viral research, unless the virus is used to infect bacteria that is grown in the dish. Pretty sure I learned this in middle school.
     
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