Today's History Lesson - Emancipation Proclamation, political document.

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    President Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation freed the slaves, right? Almost right. The truth is that it only freed the slaves in the states that had joined the Confederacy with some exceptions. It did not free the slaves in border states that supported the Union and some cities and counties that had come under Union control at the time of the proclamation. These were the states and exceptions involved in the Emancipation Proclamation.

    "Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana, (except the Parishes of St. Bernard, Plaquemines, Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James Ascension, Assumption, Terrebonne, Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the City of New Orleans) Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Virginia, (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkley, Accomac, Northampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess Ann, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth[)], and which excepted parts, are for the present, left precisely as if this proclamation were not issued."

    The proclamation, as it turns out, was not so much a magnanimous act to do the right thing. Instead it was a political document defining which were the good guys and which were the bad guys. The bad guys were not necessarily the slave owners, they were the military enemies of the Union.
     
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    The gun powder, death, and the blood of soldiers freed the slaves.
     
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    hmm, no. the states did [north and south] after the war though legal constitutional means by passing an amendment.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Yet another OP FAIL on multiple counts.

    #1 OP failed to provide a LINK to the relevant document.

    #2 The Proclamation was LIMITED to the rebel states at WAR with the Union BECAUSE the Civil War was STILL IN PROGRESS!

    #3 The PURPOSE of the Proclamation was NOT to "define the good guys and the bad guys".

    #3 The INTENDED PURPOSE of the Proclamation was to DEPRIVE the rebel states of foreign aid and the conscription of slaves to fight on the rebel side in the war.

    About the only aspect the OP got right was that the Proclamation was a political document even if the OP does not understand what political ends were actually achieved by the Proclamation.
     
  5. jay runner

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    The more advanced weaponry, death, and the blood of soldiers put Hitler and Nazism down, and the gun powder of simpler breech loaders, death, and the blood of soldiers freed the slaves.

    Without the soldier all political leaders are a big fat zero.
     
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    not so i n america where the people of the states ammend the constitution not who has more guns. at least we use to be like that.
     

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