Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

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    It's really easy to win debates when you just make things up.

    Can I try?

    You've assured everyone that cows have magical powers, so why are they allowing themselves to be slaughtered by humans?

    Wow. That was fun. I can see why you like it.
     
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    Every other mortality rate is measured as a percentage or ratio of the entire population. But I keep forgetting that this virus is the most special virus in the history of the cosmos, so it isn't subject to the same rules as everything else in life.
     
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    A man with $10 worth of assets is ten times richer than a man with $1 worth of assets. Yet the absolute difference between them is $9. Which metric do you think more accurately represents the true difference between these men?
     
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    New York had a massive lockdown and they experienced over 30,000 deaths.

    Florida had a relatively relaxed lockdown and they've experienced just over 4,000 deaths.

    What conclusions can we draw from this do you think?
     
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    Sweden’s health officials also wanted to achieve herd immunity before a second wave, and nationally, they were aiming for at least 60%. I’m still waiting for their May and June reports, and apparently, a high ranking government official recently requested a “What the **** happened” investigation.
     
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    It doesn't pay to be the gateway to Europe?
     
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    Happy Monday.
    The smiley face is a little flatter after the weekend.
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    California is going back to lock down.
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    But it really looks like other states need it more.
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    Atlanta mayor asking New York for help.
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    Every other mortality rate is not an attempt to analyze the mortality of a novel infectious disease.

    When AIDs was first spreading, you evaluated the mortality rate based on confirmed cases. Same with MERs and SARs.
     
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    That new York got hit sooner.
     
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    Instead of trying to analogize deaths per million to people who collectively have 11$ dollars between the two of them, recognize that Sweden has suffered far more deaths and economic harm than those countries which actually did a good job controlling the virus.
     
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    Did they though? This outbreak is happening across the globe, and that's because so long as there's a single coronavirus case, the multipler effect of this thing is insane. I really do think we have to learn how to live and manage with this across the world.
     
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    There were some other analyses on 2020-07-013 between the last worldwide analysis and this one:
    USA EOD analysis for 2020-07-012, posted 2020-07-013, 11:46 GMT +2, #11116.
    USA: Kansas reports over +1,000 new C19 cases for the first time, posted 2020-07-013, 22:51 GMT +0, #11147.

    COVID-19 worldwide statistical analysis for Monday, 2020-07-013 (GMT +0 - Greenwich = 20:00 EDT):

    ֍*** 13,224,062 ***֍
    +195,880 new C19 cases over the day before, highest Monday haul to-date.
    There are 140 nations with at least 1,000 COVID-19 cases, 71 of them with at least 10,000 COVID-19 cases.

    There have now been 574,894 COVID-19 deaths worldwide, +3,901 of them were on this day.
    Worldwide Rolling 7-day average: +213,009 new C19 cases and +4,965 deaths per day.

    770 Brazilian, 540 Indian, 465 US-American, 276 Mexican & 203 Iranian deaths were recorded on this day.
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    STAT'S EXCEL-TABLE:
    2020-07-013 COVID-19 Worldwide 000.png

    The last 21 days in a row, from 2020-06-023 through 2020-07-013 saw more than +160,000 cases per day and within those days, 7 days brought (non-consecutively) more than +200,000 new daily cases, a trend that I expect will continue.

    We started the third week of July, 2020 with just under +200,000 new C19 cases. That's +70,000 more cases than the Monday one month ago! If this is our starting point, then I can only imagine how the cases will grow toward Wednesday-Thursday-Friday of this week...

    I would say that it's a certainty that going under +185,000 cases a day is now a thing of the past, +195,000 cases or more per day is the norm right now and soon enough, +210,000 per day will the norm. You can see that the rolling 7-day average of +213,009 is already more than +210,000.

    The worldwide analysis for 2020-06-021, has an extrapolation of how many total C19-cases and C19-deaths we are likely to have by the end of 2020, you may be interested to go and read it again, right under the excel-table for that day. I may have to revise this extrapolation upward...

    The number of daily deaths (3,901) for the day currently being analysed surpassed the 4 Mondays before before, showing a pretty steady Monday climb in daily deaths. The daily deaths 7-day rolling average has been rising nominally every day since 2020-07-002.

    Total cases per country, descending (countries with circa +500 C19 cases and above):
    2020-07-013 COVID-19 Worldwide 001 - total cases.png
    2020-07-013 COVID-19 Worldwide 002.png
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    140-71-37-22-2
    In terms of total cases per country, there are now 140 nations in the "thousand club", with Zimbabwe having crossed over the 1,000-line on 2020-07-013. Georgia and Uruguay are up next to cross over that line.

    Of those 140,
    71 nations are now in the "10,000 club". Australia and El Salvador are up next to cross over that line.

    Of those 71 nations,
    37 are now in the "50,000 club". Bolivia, Panama, Portugal & Singapore are next up to cross over that line.

    22
    of those 37 nations are at at 100,000 or more. Currently at 83,001 and 79,735, respectively, Egypt and Iraq will spring over stillstand China and move pretty quickly toward the 100,000-line, I presume.

    Of those 22,
    2 nations are in the "1,000,000" club: the USA and Brazil. This coming Friday, India will join this rubrik:

    India (currently: 907,645 cases), which surpassed Russia in the total number of COVID-19 cases 7 days ago, is already +173,946 cases ahead of Russia. Yesterday, that margin was just over +152,000. Life comes at you fast. That being said, Russia now has over 733,699 total C19 cases, no small change, indeed. Therefore, five days ago, I extrapolated when the USA, Brasil, India and Russia will likely cross over the next available "million" line. The link is at the top of this analysis, but here again that link:

    Extrapolations: top 4 countries (next million mark), posted 2020-07-009, 12:45 GMT +2, #11042.

    India is exceeding the extrapolation, having recorded over +27,500 new cases for four days in a row. At this rate, India will cross over the 1,000,000-line on Friday, 2020-07-017.



    In terms of the countries with the most new cases:

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    70-36-21-4

    70 countries had +100 or more new cases, more than 1/3 of all nations in the world. The day before, it was 71.

    36 countries had +500 or more cases. The day before, it was 34.

    21 countries had +1,000 or more new cases. The day before, it was 23.

    And finally,
    4 nations had over +10,000 new cases: USA, Brasil, India & South Africa. The day before, it was also 4. This is the seventh time that South Africa has gone over the +10,000-line, non-consecutively. This time, with +11,554, it is now far enough above +10,000 for four days in a row that shortly, it will be staying above that line for a good, long time, I predict. @Derideo_Te

    The USA starts the week with a whalloping"
    +65,488 new C19 cases, more than 3 times as many new Monday cases as one month before and far outstripping any other nation on Earth, including Brasil, which last month often surpassed the USA in daily cases and still surpasses the USA in daily deaths.

    There can just be no doubt about it - in some corners of the world, with North, Middle and South America leading, C19 is advancing very quickly. But there are also signs that the Middle-East may become a true hotspot for COVID-19. Soon, I will be doing a series on the Middle East.


    In terms of total deaths per country, descending:

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    87-40-21-11-1
    There are 87 nations with 100 total deaths or more. Albania, Venezuela, Somalia and Nicaragua are next to cross over the 100-line.

    Of those 87,
    40 nations now have over +1,000 COVID-19 deaths to date. I have provided two screenshots of this rubrik today so that you can see for yourself all the names of the countries that have suffered at least 1,000 COVID-19 deaths. That is 1/5 of all nations on Earth.

    Of those 40,
    21 have over +5,000 COVID-19 deaths to date.

    Of those 21, there are now
    11 nations with over +10,000 total COVID-19 deaths to date.

    And finally, of those 11,
    1 nation has over +100,000 total COVID-19 deaths, completely dwarfing all other nations on the planet: the USA.

    Currently at 138,247 total deaths, the USA is circa 4% of the world's population but yet, 24.04% of all worldwide deaths have come from the USA (the day before, it was 24.12%). A extrapolation pointing to 266,000 total US deaths by the end of this year is now currently running within the USA analyses.


    Brazil, currently at 72,921 total deaths, is now rank 2 among the C19 dead and closing in on +100,000 deaths rather quickly. An average of +1,243 deaths per day as of 2020-06-024 gets Brazil to 100,000 on July 31st, 2020. An average of +891 deaths per day gets Brazil to 100,000 on August 15th, 2020. It's current rolling average (which, this time, is also the weekly average) is: +942. On 2020-06-024, Brasil ended the day with 53,874 deaths, so it has suffered +18,276 deaths since then. It is on track to reach 100,000 deaths right on or just after 2020-08-015.


    In terms of the countries with the most daily deaths:

    2020-07-013 COVID-19 Worldwide 007 - new deaths.png
    You can see the top 9 nations, all over +100 daily deaths, for yourself, highighted in the screenshot above.

    9
    nations reported over +100 daily deaths (it was 9 the day before). 5 of those 9 countries are from the Americas.

    If you've been watching the daily death statistics for a while, you will notice a pedulum-effect, almost always between 9 and 11 nations per day with over +100 deaths, sometimes with 1 or 2 over +1,000.

    In terms of Total Tests administered per country:

    32 nations have now administered more than 1 million tests apiece and of them, 5 nations have performed more than 10 million apiece: China, the USA, Russia, UK and India.

    With 90.4 million COVID-19 tests, China leads the field by far. Very soon, China will also be adjusting it's actual and daily C19 cases and deaths. We may be in for a real statistical jolt, here.

    To date: the USA has performed
    43.7 million tests (700,000 thousand more than the day before) while Russia has performed 23.2 million tests (200,000 thousand more than the day before). Brazil, which is now rank 2 among all nations both in terms of COVID-19 infections and total deaths, has now performed 4.6 million such tests.

    Facit: on 2020-07-013, the world went from just over 13 million total C19 cases, jumping over 13.1 million to land at 13.23 million cases.

    The world-wide curve, which had generally flattened, is numerically picking up substantially. The huge increase in total cases will invariably, absent a working vaccine, cause the average daily deaths to rise substantially, probably within the next 7-15 days. I'm already seeing evidence of a nominal average rise in worldwide deaths, it's been happening since 2020-07-002, more than one week ago.

    -Stat
     
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    In reference to Sweden, what the above average intelligent people want to know is did Sweden’s herd immunity strategy succeeded or failed?

    In addition, some experts are wondering if herd immunity is achievable, and for how long?
     
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    There were one important small analysis pertinent to the USA on 2020-07-013, between the last USA analysis and this one:
    USA: Kansas reports over +1,000 new C19 cases for the first time, posted 2020-07-013, 22:51 GMT +0, #11147.

    COVID-19 in the USA: statistical analysis for EOD on Monday, 2020-07-013 (EOD = GMT +0):

    ***3,479,483*** (26.30% of worldwide C19 total)
    +65,488 new COVID-19 cases (33.43% of worldwide new cases), second highest daily caseload to-date.
    In a row (+ or more): 19 days of +40,000, 8 days of +50,000, 6 days of +60,000-71,000.

    There are now 138,247 total COVID-19 deaths in the USA (24.04% of worldwide total deaths).
    465 of them were recorded on this day (11,72% of worldwide daily deaths).

    USA rolling 7 day average = 62,664 new infections & 753 deaths per day.
    1,549,469 people have recovered, 1,791,797 are still sick, 15,934 of them are in critical condition.
    The recovered statistic is improving: margin = -6.97% vs. active cases (was: -7.09%).

    2020-07-013 COVID-19 EOD USA 000.png


    We started this week on 2020-07-013 with over +65,000 new C19 cases, +7,000 more cases than the Monday before and more than 3 times as many cases than four Mondays before. This is also the second highest daily "haul" to-date, behind the (until now) record-crushing +71,787 last Friday. And this is how we are starting the week...

    You can see that the rolling average currently shows +62,664 cases a day, which means advancing 1,000,000 cases in just under 16 days each time, assuming we maintain the current rate. The USA broke over the 3-million barrier on Monday, 2020-07-006, one week before this day, where we just landed only 26,000 shy of 3.5 million, so you can see that very likely, in the next 16 days, we will indeed cross over the 4-million barrier, possibly sooner than that if the rate of daily infections increases.

    And just to note: if you remove all of Florida's massive +12,264 from the daily new C19 caseload in the USA, the USA would still have come in over +53,000 cases, larger than any day pre-2020-07-001. Consider that.

    The actual number of daily deaths reported on this day, +465, reflects an UPTICK in Sunday deaths in the USA over the last 4 Sundays.

    The real concern (and I have been writing this for two weeks now)
    here is that with a huge spike in cases within the Union, a measureable, uncomfortable spike in deaths will start in the next 4-11 days, ala what we saw in NY and NJ, one month later in LA, MI and IL. We may soon see this in FL, AZ, TX, CA and GA. Why in these next two weeks? Because daily deaths are a lagging indicator. We are already seeing nominal evidence of this right now, but it's not held long enough to classify it as a trend. However, should these numbers continue to rise to the end of July, 2020, then I would say that we most definitely are having a trend.

    COVID-19 in the USA, by all 57 UNITS, total confirmed C19 cases, descending:

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    57: 56-47-44-20-10

    56 out of 57 UNITS have over 1,000 confirmed total COVID-19 cases apiece. 50 of those 56 Units are US States. However, at 345 and the only Unit under the 1,000-line, the Pacific Territories (Guam / Northern Mariana Islands) may take a while to get there.

    47 out of 57 UNITS have over 5,000 confirmed total COVID-19 cases apiece. 42 of those 47 Units are US States.

    44 out of 57 UNITS have more than +10,000 cases, with IdahoPuerto Rico having crossed over the 10,000-line on 2020-07-013. 40 of those 44 Units are states. The non-states: DC, Puerto Rico Veterans Affairs and the US Military. The US Federal Prisons is probably up next to cross over the 10,000-line.

    20 out of 57 UNITS have more than +50,000 confirmed C19 cases. All 20 of them are states.

    And finally, 10 of all 57 Units have more than +100,000 confirmed C19 cases, with Pennsylvania having crossed over the 100,000-line on 2020-07-013. All 10 of them are states.


    COVID-19 in the USA, by all 57 UNITS, new daily cases:

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    57: 57-45-13
    57 of 57 Units reported at least one new case.

    45
    of 57 Units reported more than +100 new cases. 40 of those 45 Units were states. The non-states were: Veterans Affairs, Puerto Rico, US Military, Federal Prisons and Navajo Nations.

    13 of 57 Units reported over +1,000 new cases (the day before, it was 10), all of them being states. Florida led with +12,624 new C19 cases, less than the +15,300 from the day before but still an eye-popping number, especially for a Monday. Texas and California clocked in at over +9,000 and +8,000, respectively. From Georgia down to first-time 1,000-lister Kansas, the remaining 10 states reported between circa +3,400 and +1,100 new cases. Again, Ohio is on the 1,000-list. And Washington State has again made the list.


    COVID-19 in the USA, by all 57 UNITS, new daily deaths:
    2020-07-013 COVID-19 EOD USA 005 - new deaths.png

    57: 43-12-0

    43 of 57 Units reported at least one new death. 39 of them are US States. The non-states: Veteran Affairs, US Military, Federal Prisons and Navajo Nations.

    12 of 57 Units reported deaths in double digits or more, from +10 to +80. 11 of those 12 of those Units are US States. The non-state: Veterans Affairs.

    Out of the entire Union, all 57 Units, 0 Units reported more than 100 daily deaths.

    COVID-19 in the USA, by all 57 UNITS, total deaths:
    2020-07-013 COVID-19 EOD USA 004 - total deaths.png

    57: 47-25-7-2

    47 of 57 Units now have at least 100 total deaths. 43 of those 47 Units are US States. At 97 and 87 total deaths respectively, West Virginia, and North Dakota will soon cross over that marker. The 4 non-states with over 100 deaths: DC, Puerto Rico, Veterans Affairs and the Navajo Nation.

    25 of 57 Units now have a total of more than +1,000 COVID-19 deaths. 24 of those 25 are US states, the other Unit is US Veterans Affairs. Currently at 984 and 972 deaths, respectively, Rhode Island and South Carolina are approaching +1,000-death line and will likely cross over it within the month of July, 2020.

    7 of 57 Units now have a total of more than +5,000 COVID-19 deaths. All 7 of them are states.

    Out of all 57 Units, 2 have suffered more than 10,000 COVID-19 deaths: NY and NJ, the original epicenters of the virus in February/March/April 2020.
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    FACIT: we ended the day analysed with 138,247 total US deaths from COVID-19. To make this easier to visualize, from the listing of the projected 2020 population of US-American cities, here a screenshot of cities with a projected population of between 136,400-151,400:

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    This means that we have currently lost the equivalent of almost all of METAIRIE, never to get it back again. Think about that.


    What happens if, on the average, instead of 1,400 dead per day (which was the extrapolation from 2020-04-028 through 2020-05-031), let's take 1/2 of that, "just" 700 dead per day every day from the beginning of June, 2020, until the end of this year?

    This extrapolation is now up and running, you can find it at the online excel table (you'll find the logistical tab easily). I will do a report on this once a month, on the first day of the month, but you can check in on the numbers as often as you like to see if we really are on our way to 266,000 total US COVID-19 deaths, or not. On the first day of each month, the table for the month before will also be published here.

    Some dates to keep in mind. If this trends as I think it may, averaging at some point in time, +700 deaths per day, then we would likely reach the following milemarkers:

    150,000 deaths on or around 2020-08-002.
    200,000 deaths on or around 2020-10-013.
    250,000 deaths on or around 2020-12-023.

    Mitigate. Don't be fooled and don't be a fool: wear a mask. Wash your hands. Avoid large crowds. Think before you decide to demonstrate about anything right now: is it worth your health to do it? Get lots of good sunlight in open spaces. Respect the space of others. Stay healthy. We DON'T want the new extrapolation, which started on June 1st, 2020, to happen.

    Right now, we are 1,952 deaths ABOVE the extrapolation, which puts us somewhat under 3 days ahead of the projection. This value is higher than the corresponding number from the corresponding weekday in June, shortly after the extrapolation began (2020-06-015, 1,588 deaths ABOVE the extrapolation at that time).


    -Stat
     
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    Of course we will - we don't have a choice now - but that doesn't meant that every single homo-sapiens on this big beautiful blue watery planet of ours should not have worn a mask and physically distanced right from the get-go. Had ALL of us taken this seriously in February at the latest, then we could have easily avoided 90% of what we are seeing now. We would be in reduction/elimination mode ala New Zealand instead of "holy **** the beast is out of the bag and I can't get it back in the back and oh look now my bag is far too small for the beast anyway so I guess I'll have to live with it"-mode.

    I will write it once again: COVID-19 is a virus. It seeks human hosts to invade. It doesn't even know that it's killing people because a virus can't think. C19 knows no artificial national or state boundaries, so federalism at any level does not work when combatting a pandemic. Federalism can only work on an Island far removed from other nations, for instance, New Zealand, and then only when travel from other nations is cut-off.

    The USA is getting hit 20-30 times harder than it should have because after the first two epicenters (NY, NJ), other Governors, led by a horrible President and Vice-President and Cabinet, were not really willing to take it seriously, mostly because those (exclusively) Republican Governors were scared shitless that their "base" would turn on them, call them communists and vote them out were they to mandate masks. So, the lockdown was essentially meaningless because the re-opening was not carefully planned and correctly initiated. And all of this is because of a ****ed-up president who is an incompetent boob who cannot lead, does not read, does not take responsibility for anything and is "me, me, me, it's all about me, 24/7". He is absolutely the main reason why we will easily go over 300,000 dead now, and I mean, before the 2nd wave hits in the Winter. He had a chance to make sure there was enough PPE in March and he ****ed up royally. He has a chance to do it again and get it right this time and he is still ****ing up. Donald Trump has now had FIVE ****ING months to recognize the learning curve and get with the game and he has failed miserably at every single turn.

    He has failed because he is not thinking of the American people at all. All he is thinking about is himself, about his re-election chances, about how he looks all the time. It is quite literally the most sickening thing I have ever seen in my life and I for one will be very glad when this ****-show is over with, because in the meantime people are still dying, way way way too many people are getting infected (forget contact tracing, ain't gonna happen anymore), the economy will now completely tank and the USA is very likely to go belly-up. We are now less than 3 months from the entire system bursting at the seams. Wanna see up to 40,000 deaths PER DAY? Well, let all kids go back to school all at once without physical distance and watch it happen. Thousands of C19 petri-dishes all over the nation. What is happening now is child's play compared to what may just happen.

    Only one single Republican Governor was willing to break with Trump early, the Gov. of ND. That's it. And even his stuff was half-hearted.

    And all the while, Trump and his ilk have sown hatred and distrust. They have pitted us against each other, causing confrontations that make it even easier for the virus to spread. It doesn't get much more unamerican than that.

    Yepp, my patience with that man - and his ilk - is now over with. They had 5 FULL ****ING MONTHS to prove that they love America and at least are willing to listen some to science and treat this like a medical issue, and they have failed. They must all go, the elected ones, per ballot box, the others, per legal removal from their posts.

    I have worked mightily to keep this thread politics-free, but it is now abundantly clear that Donald Trump himself is a clear and present danger to the lives of every single American. Forget his treachery, his lying, his backtracking, his dementia, his out and out illegalities, his philandering, his probable treason - just focus on his handling of the COVID-19 crisis that has now become the largest catastrophe in US-American history, bar none.

    America will never be the same again because of this. And a huge amount of this, as of April, 2020, is Donald Trump's direct fault. The buck stops with him, whether the fool likes it or not.

    And from now on, I am not holding back about him. Enough is enough.
     
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    Herd immunity requires that the body's immune system develops antibodies that will recognize the Covid19 virus over decades. This has never happened with other coronaviruses in the past and there is no reason to believe that it will now either.

    https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/covid-19/latest-evidence/immune-responses

    Annual vaccinations and and a viable treatment are more feasible since herd immunity appears to be a fallacy as far as this type of virus us concerned.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    :applause:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Enemy_No._1

    Benedict Donald has become Public Enemy #1 given what he has done to our nation and ongoing DEATHS of Americans because of his abysmal FAILURE to do his job as the hired public SERVANT of We the People.

    https://ourpublicservice.org/our-work/public-service-leadership-model/

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    https://hbr.org/2020/04/a-nonpartisan-model-for-developing-public-service-leadership
     
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    Former Arkansas Gov. and Senator David Pryor (D), 85 years old, has tested positive for COVID-19 and is in the hospital. His wife has also tested positive, but is currently asymptomatic. Pryor has a lot of comorbidities.

    Current Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchison (R) announced it yesterday during a press conference. Gov. Hutchison was very gracious in his way of doing it. Arkansas is getting hammered by C19 right now and he wanted to make the point clear that anyone can get the virus.

    https://apnews.com/fae1a6f100f8cefce1df8a0e4cae32ba

    The Pryor family name is somewhat of of a dynastic name in Arksansas politics, kind of like the names Bush, Reagan, Kennedy elsewhere in the nation.
     
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    You can't die from something if you ain't got that something.
    Going by your "logic" the 1918 Spanish Flu was just a sniffle when you compare the overall deaths with the global population at the time. Same with the Black Death, Polio, Small Pox… No reason whatsoever to bother you personaly.
     
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    For you info, Canada did a sad good job, meaning;

    a. They’ve managed to crush their curve, and their current number of deaths per 1M pop; 230

    b. The sad part; Near 75% of their Covid19 death toll; Senior home/nursing care, thus, same as Sweden.

    Why am I telling you this?

    Because some posters have been saying; “If we were to exclude Sweden’s Senior home/nursing Covid19 fatalities, they are teaching us something.

    Well, so as the Canucks!
     
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    A once again, to all pro-herd immunity posters, the main question about Sweden is; What percentage of their population have developed antibodies, due to the fact, acheiving herd immunity has been their strategy since day one?

    Thus, they may have crushed their curve, however, did their strategy worked, or failed?

    Last info I read, not even close.

    In addition Mr./Mrs. herd immunity, in this thread, most posters are highly educated factualists and critical thinking analysts, thus, who are you trying to fool?
     
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    Speaking of this imaginary herd immunity boondoggle at least one GOP governor is NOT buying into it.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tate-reeves-coronavirus-herd-immunity_n_5f0d42ecc5b6df6cc0b0852c

    Anyone capable of doing the math can figure this out for themselves.

    Sad that there are so few Republican governors who can do it for themselves.

    We NEED more governors like him NATIONWIDE in the ABSENCE of any competent leadership on a national level.
     
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    Which governors are saying don't wear masks? I think you're playing politics here, some are saying you can't or shouldn't mandate them because there isn't a way to enforce it, where would we have put all those leftie protesters in man made block cages?
     
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    The point of my post was about the imaginary "herd immunity" boondoggle that is being used as an excuse to allow Americans to die NEEDLESSLY.
     
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