Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

First bolded: NO

Second bolded: Perhaps, but the jury is out on that one.

 

More political BS, 32k deaths is now saving lives, unbelievable.

 

You're right, the scientific community can still come up with an antidote/vaccine and that will actually make a difference in the fight against the coronavirus. I think that's the game changer we need, because controlling the movement, wearing masks, etc all of these are mitigation efforts that aren't really effective.

 

We have most definitely proven that federalism does work in the face of a worldwide pandemic, for obvious reasons. A virus knows no national or state borders.

And the US-American response has been ---- very questionable in many places.

The richest, most powerful nation on earth, unable to cobble together enough PPE for the front-line workers, or even get ****ing swabs and reagents so that adequate testing could get underway. I mean, there are 3rd world nations who got there faster than the USA. And then there's the fact that in spite of warnings in March / April / May / June and even now of either a second wave or a second curve, we are once again facing a supply shortage. This kind of **** only happens when a US President relishes in the idea of Americans, Americans he assumes are not going to vote for his fascist ass anyways, dying in squalor. There is nothing 1st nation about that. That is the stuff of banana-republics that have landed on the garbage scowl of history.

Welcome to the thread, glad you are here.

 

Could have been worse. Much, much worse.

 

The great state of Oklahoma has just reported +993 fresh C19 infections on 2020-07-014, also +4 deaths. Oklahoma was just 7 shy of the 1,000-line.

COVID-19 is ripping it's way through the Deep South, to say the least.

 

What we're now in a PPE shortage? Where, and this is a serious question? My thoughts are we should have never ever ever let our manufactures move to China or anywhere that cheap labor was allowed to lower prices. What's clear is we somehow came up with more swabs and PPE than any other country in the world because we've tested more and treated more than anyone else.

 

So credit to Cuomo and shame to Trump, not political at all.

 

Some things are just so hard to ignore.

Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” — Trump in a tweet.

This as New York's first known case comes from --- Europe.

But we should move this to another thread. This one is for data.
Just tag me.

 

And Fauci and Cuomo and every governor in the country. Pure politics as usual.

I guess we shouldn't have listened to scientist, thank god Trump shut down the Chinese borders and ignored the "democrat thoughts on the viruses being a hoax" (as the NBC pointed out). Per fauci, NO NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING YOUR DOING...… February 29th, 2020. You guys and your limited memory kill me.
https://www.today.com/video/dr-fauc...s-no-need-to-change-lifestyle-yet-79684677616

 

The great state of Florida has just reported +9,194 fresh C19 infections on 2020-07-014, also +132 deaths. That's 10 times as many cases and 33 times more deaths than Oklahoma, and yet, this number looks good compared to Florida's +15,300 from 2 or 3 days ago...

Again, I say: COVID-19 is ripping it's way through the Deep South.

 

Folks have to learn to quit listening to Lying Fake News, and look things up themselves.

 

Its time to swap the red basketball cap with a Leopard skin hat.

 

Also, this needs to be addressed: Herd Immunity is not a "right wing" thing, it's a scientific acknowledgement that the more people who are immune to catching a disease, the less vectors(as they'd say) for the virus to take hold. The only thing here, is that we're dealing with a novel coronavirus so we don't have a vaccine for it. As opposed to say like the Flu.

So the idea of getting this disease(if it comes to you) and recovering from it, was a possibility(and it's not like it's not a possibility or a technique someone has to do. You just...get it.) Problem is, the more people who get it, the more people who die and as pointed out: This was never a simple cold, this thing can somehow effect everything from brain cognitive issues to pnuemonia to all sorts of blood clots and everything.

So I'd suggest that for people to wear a mask, to wear gloves, to socially distance etc. Let's mitigate this as best we can, but let's also not act like Trump should be blamed for everything, that's childish and we're better than that.

He does own blame, but he's not the only one. Early on, I was sounding an alarm over our values and systems and believed we'd top out at 15K cases. ROFL. So I accept responsibility and blame that I defended the wrong thing, I should have been more about defending our human lives, because there's no value to be sustained if we're dead.

 

In regards to testing, the biggest failure was not the inability to ramp up testing (although that is a failure). No, the biggest failure was the multiple week delay during which the CDC only allowed States to use the CDC test - a test that contained a faulty regeant. The CDC could have authorized the usage of the WHO test or permitted the States to seek out their own tests. That is on Trump and his administration.

And it is not BS to claim that Trump repeatedly downplayed the threat of this virus, lied about the virus, and touted the benefits of the virus. And he did so loooong after "my leaders, my media, and Dr. Fauci" had long recognized (indeed they had always recognized that the threat could change rapidly, so pay attention) that the virus was now a very serious threat to Americans.

In one of the first major press conferences, Trump said that he did not believe an outbreak in the US was inevitable RIGHT AFTER his health expert said that such was inevitable and indeed had already happened because we had our first confirmed case of community spread.

 

This isn't specific to PPE, but definitely related.

Texas hospitals are running out of drugs, beds, ventilators and even staff

 

At a freaking minimum, we are testing half as much as we should. And that assumes we ramp up our ability to process tests promptly, the lag is so bad they're almost useless now.

We would be better off if we tripled testing. The more testing and tracing you do, the faster we get a handle on this. Which is the major reason Trump has been an abysmal failure.

 

It occurred to me this morning that this has become routine. They are good little puppets. Tobacco doesn't want to see indoor smoking banned? They will howl on cue.

Oil companies don't want problems from climate change? They scream in unison.

A corrupt president can't be bothered to do his job? They'll go psychotic for him.

I had thought this was a garden variety aberration. A neurotic knows he's being irrational, even if he can't admit it. Raise the stakes, and suddenly he'd get real, and fully rational.

But we have thousands dying, and not a hint that they are capable of rational thought.

 

I was exposed. Never got a call by a tracer. Of course it's Arizona. They are buried. I probably should have gotten tested, but by the time she got her results back I just had a just a little while to go on my 14 days.

 

Trump doesn't control these things. Not to mention that China horded all of the assets that states needed(and every country to an extent did the same) for the coronavirus. This is where you can blame Trump: Our national government should have done more to secure more supplies, but we can't blame him for the use of the supplies we DID have. Or for the hiring of contract tracers. The national government isn't a national business. Despite Pelosi's wish that it were so.

 

Trump has emergency powers which makes all that possible.


The way he has the government getting supplies is nuts.

 

Ok so not PPE, which was what was said. Unfortunately, hot spots will always have trouble but can be mitigated as NY proved. We spent millions on sending a navy hospital ship and building make shift hospitals that weren't even used...

 

And he did take of it, it was achievement. We're testing more than anyone anywhere. We didn't have a major shortage of anything that was predicted but that's hindsight. Testing isn't slow around here, it's a 2 day process, where is taking so long?

 

Dang that's slow, I got tested and got my results back in 34 hours exactly.

 

Wait a minute, I’ve googled British Columbia’s Covid19 press releases, and before they declared Covid19 a pandemic, here was their last statement of their press realesses;

“At this time, the risk of a pandemic remains low”

A truthful, and wise statement compared to Trump’s 100+ downplayed statements, and all of them have been disproved and/or ridiculed.

Accurate statements, and dates;


Feb 12; CDC Nancy Messonier......”We are likely to see community spread in the U.S”

Feb 14; Trump.......”There’s a theory that, in April, when it gets warm” blah blah blah

Feb 26; CDC Nancy Messonier.......community spread.....”It’s not a question of if, but when.

Feb 26; CDC Ann Schuchat......”While the U.S. currently has low levels of confirmed cases, we do expect more”

Feb 26; Trump......”When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple days is going to be down close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done”

Feb 27; Trump.....”It’s going to disappear. One day......it’s like a miracle....it’s going to disappear”

Thus, who’s downplaying?