Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

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    Dr. Jason Wilson’s exact words”

    “Patients are younger and sicker than a few months ago, and a larger percentage of younger patients are becoming severely ill.

    Source; Tampa Bay Times
     
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    The internet just proves that there are more stupid people than smart people.

    While ignorance can be cured through education stupidity is a life sentence.

    Covid and stupid seems like a match made in _____________ (fill in the blank).
     
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    Houston already has more of it's own problems than it can handle!
     
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    Anyone remember FLATTENING the CURVE?

    We needed to do that in order to ensure that our medical resources would have the TIME to handle the case load and come up with a treatment and/or vaccination.

    Here is the good news;

    https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-t...als-6f92cf31-4fa1-4181-ba21-a5a8c778ec9e.html

    Which was followed by the following observation;

    Followed by the bad news;

    Here is our current REALITY!

    https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200713/arizona-florida-texas-face-hospital-capacity

    We are probably NOT going to see the same death toll had the current SURGE in New Cases occurred back in April so we can be thankful for everything that has been learned both in the tri-state area and the rest of the world.

    However the death toll is going to be higher than necessary because REOPENING the economy essentially WIPED OUT any flattening of the curve as far as medical resource capacity is concerned.

    Our New Case count INCREASES and it is already MORE than DOUBLE what it was when it hit the tri-state area.

    USA_Daily_New_Casess_071720.PNG

    There is no end in sight right now and just because the virus is slamming into FL, TX and AZ does NOT mean that the other states are out of danger. As @Statistikhengst has pointed out multiple times already we are seeing increases in 40+ places all around the nation.

    At this stage we are in grave danger and the most sensible thing to do would be a National Lockdown for 6 weeks with mandatory masks, social distancing, quarantines and ENFORCEMENT of all of those Pandemic Protocols if we want to bring this back UNDER control again.

    However that is NOT going to happen because of "muh free dumbs" or some other BS that is utterly MEANINGLESS in a HEALTHCARE CRISIS!

    We are no longer "all in this TOGETHER"!

    We are stuck in a storm of stupidity ALONE!

    The SPREAD of the virus COULD have been prevented.

    The FLATTENING could have worked.

    The ECONOMY could have reopened safely.

    But that would have taken ALL of We the People BEHAVING like responsible ADULTS!

    Some chose NOT to do so and that is WHY we are facing this SELF INFLICTED ****-storm!

    Be safe and take care.

    DT
     
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    Taiwan’s authorities haven’t mandated their citizens to wear masks, they didn’t have to. Soon after their CDC sounded the alarm, (Dec 31st), retail store masks were disappearing faster than Monika Lewinsky’s lip gloss, and due to a very high consumer demand, they’ve immediately stopped exporting masks, and other protective gear.

    Trump’s loyalists best response; “We’re not Taiwanese”
     
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    FOURTEEN MILLION CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES WORLDWIDE
    This happened on 2020-07-012 at 23:10 GMT +2 / 17:10 EDT:

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    (My timestamp was wrong, not 2020-07-010, but rather, 2020-07-012)


    And this happened today at about 16:58, GMT +2, 10:58 EDT:

    2020-07-017 COVID-19 the world goes over 14 million.png

    Time elapsed: a little less than 4 days, 17 hours.
     
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    Quote: “We’re not Taiwanese”

    But we ought to be

    Christian’s common sayings; “We ought to walk and talk like Jesus”

    Jesus; “Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself”

    Trump’s Evangelicals; “Thou shalt infect thy neighbor as thyself”
     
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    Trump hater: Thou Shalt Tell Everyone what they think based on orangemanbad
     
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    Why are we acting like it's only Trump supporters acting like an ass? There are asses all across the political spectrum, not taking this as seriously as they should. But they should take it seriously, if they want to prevent the spread from going further and further.
     
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    This is sadly accurate.
     
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    It's because it's only the Trump's supporters who are acting like asses. It's really that simple. The sane people of America are not. That's the difference.

    Sorry to have to break it to you, but you won't see Biden supporters screaming at Costo workers that they aren't going to wear a mask and you won't see Biden supporters having to say in their last sentence before they die on a hospital bed that they were wrong for saying that this all was a hoaxand oh well, now it's time to croak, and you haven't seen Biden supporters deliberately breathing in peoples' faces or filing lawsuits against having to wear masks.

    So, yeah, this time there are no "two sides" about this and no, it's not, "well, they all act that way". Not this time.

    Trump supporters are emulating him and therefore, for this reason, they are being assinine.

    Biden supporters are not.

    I challenge you to find me even one single true Biden supporter who is not willing to wear a mask. Just one. Hint: I doubt you will find one.
     
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    I somehow doubt the women who spat at my mother(not that I was able to see them, I'd been in the house really save for two times)
    are ultra conservative people(keep in mind, Philadelphia is a bastion of Liberalism, our mayor ran unopposed.). I can't confirm for sure, as it's not like there's no conservatives in Philly(after all, to the extent that one calls my Nationalism 'far right' I am obviously a said representative)(despite how much I hate it being called 'far right' when I reject both right/left)

    But I'm fairly confident that my mom at least found some non-conservative scum.
     
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    It is pathetic that the uber partisans on the left refuse to see the part their "team" played in all this, with the rioting and looting.

    I'm so disgusted by partisans.
     
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    On Friday, 2020-07-017, the great state of Florida has reported +11,466 new COVID-19 cases and +128 new deaths. Florida, which just passed over the 300,000 case mark two days ago, now stands and 327,421 total C19 cases to date, rank 3, behind California (364,834, but not really reported in yet today) and New York (431,380).

    In the extrapolation from above, which I posted yesterday, I assumed an average of +10,500 cases per day in Florida. As you can see, Florida came in 996 cases over the average today. Just to note.
     
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    On Friday, 2020-07-017, the great state of Arizona reported +3,910 new COVID-19 cases and +94 new deaths. Arizona, which is getting hammered like a nail into a board from COVID-19, has been reporting between +3,000-+4,400 cases per day for days on end now. Arizona currently has 138,523 total COVID-19 cases and is 7th in the current total case rankings.
     
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    Wait a minute. There is no evidence that über-partisans on "the Left" did the looting. Criminals did the looting. Also, we now know that a number of buildings were set into flames not by protesters, but rather, by white supremacists who are notoriously on the Right, not the Left. However, that does not mean that "the Right" burned those buildings (like the one police station in Minneapolis, nöööö). Criminals did that. Criminals are not part of nor are they welcome on the "team", at least not on my team. But if you are referring to the demos having contributed to the case surge, I agree with you that that has contributed to the surge and, as a lefty, was one of the very first people here to say that no demos should be occurring, just to be crystal clear. Let history record that what I just wrote to you is the truth, backed up by oodles of my postings right here on this thread.

    But to continue, "über-partisans" on the Left are NOT, I repeat, are NOT anti-maskers and they did not protest against the lockdown restrictions, either.
     
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    Well, ok.
     
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    Thousands and thousands of protesters, who are not on the right, went around without wearing masks. A portion of them started rioting and looting. I'm sure some right guys were in on the looting and destruction, but probably not so much with the peaceful protests.
     
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    LOL yeap it was lefties protesting, just stop with the BS please. That would be like saying it was liberals at kkk rally (not that there are any anymore), not happening.
     
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    I just watched a very helpful segment on CNN about the numbers from Florida as they are being published. An epidemiologist who teaches as a well-known university in FL is indicating that the FL dept. of health is fudging the numbers in the following ways:

    -the number of positive cases is not based on the number of positives that day, but rather, the number of people who tested positive. There are a number of state workers who are being tested every day, many of them have tested positive more than once, but when the test results come back, in the case of more than one positive result for the same person (due to backlogs, nöööö) those people are listed only once. However, for people who repeatedly test negative, each instance is counted instead of counting the person. This is, of course, inherently unfair and intellectually dishonest, to say the least.

    Let's illustrate this:

    Example A: John Q. Public tests 4 times in a row for COVID-19 on July 4,5,6 and 7. When the test results come in, they will all end up being POSITIVE. His results for July 4 come back on July 12th, but the results for the other three tests come back all at once on July 15. However, instead of counting 3 cases on July 15, the state of Florida only counts 1.

    Now, you might say, ok, that's reasonable. But Florida does not use the same methodology for people who repeatedly test positive. Using the same John Q. Public:

    Example B: John Q. Public tests 4 times in a row for COVID-19 on July 4,5,6 and 7. When the test results come in, they will all end up being NEGATIVE. His results for July 4 come back on July 12th, but the results for the other three tests come back all at once on July 15. On July 15th, all three results are counted as individual cases.

    Or, increasing the viewing field:

    Example C: you have 50 people, they are tested 10 times a piece. That should technically be 500 tests that would be the denominator. For the last 5 rounds of tests, 5 of those 50 people test positive 5 times in a row. 5*5 should be, as we know from Elementary School math, 25, but Florida counts that 25 as: 5.

    This is what the normal, common-sense math would say:

    500 tests, 25 positive (5%), 475 negative (95%)

    But using the system it is using, Florida would only count 480 of the 500 cases and only 5 of the 25 positives, therefore, the figure they would publish would be:

    480 tests, 4 positive (0.8%), 475 negative (99.2%).

    Now, let that sink in for a moment. That's a HUGE disparity.

    And actually, if you insist on only counting people, then 5 of 50 people would be 10% positivity, not 5% and certainly not 0.8%.

    What Florida does deliberately reduces the numerator and inflates the denominator by treating the two sets of numbers (positives / negatives) differently. If Florida is going to count cases this way, it should count the same way for both positive and negative cases. BASTA.

    Also, in Florida, only people who admitted to a hospital with COVID-19 as the PRIMARY cause for the visit are listed as a positive case. So, if a pregnant woman comes to the hospital and upon being tested, tests postitive, she will NOT appear in the COVID-19 statistics as a positive case. In fact, her hospitalization data will be sent to the state and upward as a pregnancy, not as a COVID-19 case, even if she is laying in a bed in a COVID-19 ward.

    Pretty screwed-up, nööööööö..... So, the next time Florida posts an ungodly number of +15,000 new C19 cases, it's publishing the ones it cannot hide.

    That is sad.
     
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    Yes, my nerdy husband was just telling me about this.

    Florida is BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPed.

    We are completely mis-reporting out statistics. That's how badly our governor wants to cover up his failures to listen to science. It was much more critical to listen to Master Trump. "Yes, sir, our cases are skyrocketing, but I'm safe and won't be opening any place I am."
     
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    Backlogs certainly contribute to this dilemma and backlogs probably exist in the entire country, not just Florida. I do however agree that this is manipulative and they should count everything the same way, for stats to be universal across the board.
     
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    We’re currently writing several Covid19 manuals, based on events, facts, statistics, and analytics.

    As a former supervisor/team leader, here’s my record of incidents over 37 years;

    Human errors; too many, one fatal
    Biological/Chemical; one serious, but not fatal
    Ergonomics; several incidents
    Structural design; a few, but not serious
    Structural weaknesses; a few, but not serious
    Structural deficiencies; No incidents
    Flukes: one serious incident, but not fatal
    Due to a cover-up; one, but not serious

    Thus, number 1.....human errors


    Titanic; Human errors, structural weaknesses, negligence, + stress/panic which have impaired people’s judgement.

    Thus, number 1......Human errors

    Covid19; number 1......cover-ups/lack of reliable data

    And then,

    Lack of proactivity.....I don’t believe the water will rise above the riverbank, and by the way, the Dam’s technologists have it under control.

    PROACTIVITY......I don’t believe the water will rise above the riverbank, but just in case, let’s sandbag the property.

    And then,

    Lack of logistics/preparedness
    Lack of testing/contact tracing
    Lack of screening measures
    Lack of social distancing measures
    Weak social distancing measures
    Lack of protective gear
    Lack of education
    Weakness in Human behaviour

    And then,

    Stupidity; Georgia Governor bans mask mandates
     
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    Backlogs have nothing to do with deliberately deciding to count one number one way, but the other number a different way, using the same exact data list.
    The backlog doesn't cause people to do that. Criminal inclinations to hide date, however, do.
     
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